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Re: Support Thread for 2-1 Nap Transition cont'd pt 4
« Reply #210 on: December 01, 2011, 19:34:39 pm »
Samiam I wonder if that pm nap went too late in the day. I you capped it at say 3.30 he may have slept better overnight? :-\ I know for Z to go down at 7.30 we have naps over by 2.30pm.
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Re: Support Thread for 2-1 Nap Transition cont'd pt 4
« Reply #211 on: December 01, 2011, 22:15:38 pm »
Agree with Sara.  We have same problem here if we don't do long enough A to BT.  Great that he took a long nap though!  Stick with it, all will come good!


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Re: Support Thread for 2-1 Nap Transition cont'd pt 4
« Reply #212 on: December 02, 2011, 04:05:28 am »
Same here - no napping after 230pm in this house... that puts BT at 730/745pm.  I really like to have a nap done by 2pm :)

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Re: Support Thread for 2-1 Nap Transition cont'd pt 4
« Reply #213 on: December 03, 2011, 05:55:22 am »
Thanks for all your replies, but unfortunately our poor little guy has a cold. He woke up a couple times last night, nose stuffy and running. Woke up 5:30 this morning. I figure I'll let him nap when he wants and for as long as he wants while he's sick. On the bright side, his naps were good today...he woke up himself, coughing, from his AM nap after 30m, but he took a 1h 30m PM nap.

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Re: Support Thread for 2-1 Nap Transition cont'd pt 4
« Reply #214 on: December 03, 2011, 20:36:23 pm »
Oh no - poor Sam :( And yes, I agree, let him nap when he wants and how long he needs.  Get better soon little man!



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Re: Support Thread for 2-1 Nap Transition cont'd pt 4
« Reply #215 on: December 04, 2011, 21:01:25 pm »
Well, we seem to be back on track (Im gulping writing this as fraid of jinxing!!!). DS is napping at 12.15 for 2-3 hrs for the past week, and more or less STTN for 5 nights now!! Mantra crys most nights but is settling himself after 5 min or so Fingers, toes, you name it crossed!! I do give him a firly substantial snack at 11.30 (as in  2 boiled eggs today) as he has lunch when he wakes at 3ish.

Claire, thanks for your advice and support xx

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Re: Support Thread for 2-1 Nap Transition cont'd pt 4
« Reply #216 on: December 04, 2011, 21:25:16 pm »
Excellent!



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Re: Support Thread for 2-1 Nap Transition cont'd pt 4
« Reply #217 on: December 04, 2011, 21:49:27 pm »
so I feel like the worst mom ever... DD has been short napping (max 90 mins) for three days now and her nights are just getting to 11 hours... figured it out this morning that it's a tooth coming... really swollen.  Gave her meds before her nap and got a lovely 2 hrs 20 mins.  And she is just happily chatting in there now :)

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Re: Support Thread for 2-1 Nap Transition cont'd pt 4
« Reply #218 on: December 05, 2011, 19:15:08 pm »
newbabe - yippee!!!  Well that was a quick & easy transition you lucky thing!!!  Hope all continues to sail smoothly for you.

Kara - don't feel bad hun, sometimes these things really aren't obvious.  :-*

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Re: Support Thread for 2-1 Nap Transition cont'd pt 4
« Reply #219 on: December 14, 2011, 22:31:00 pm »
Hi everyone! I was thinking about all of you and your kiddos and wanted to check in! :) How is everyone?!

We have successfully moved to one nap. Thank goodness!! With that, EW's have pretty much ceased. (Knock on wood, right?!). Jack's schedule looks pretty much like this most days:

7:00am wake
12:00-1:30/2 (when dd's home from school)
12:30-2 (when dd's in school)
7:00pm bt

It's working out really well! And he's tolerating it just fine. Once in a while, he'll nod off in the car around 10:30/10:45 if we're running errands, but I just let it go since we're usually on the way home. ;) But for the most part, he does well with the 5 hours A time. We worked so hard to get there and seemed to take him forever. He wasn't able to to it until about 15 months. And it took vacation to force him to go on one nap - LOL! For all those that are struggling...hang in! They will 'get it' soon enough!

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Re: Support Thread for 2-1 Nap Transition cont'd pt 4
« Reply #220 on: December 20, 2011, 07:34:30 am »
Hi

I wonder if anyone can help?

We've been struggling with 2-1 for what seems like forever, but is really about 6 weeks, with an episode of illness in between.
I've posted on toddler sleep a few times, but here seems to be a more sensible place for my particular problem.

Here's the thing I don't get - it seems to be that DS, 13MO, can do about 4 he's A time between waking in the morning and a nap. Naps were the magic 45 minutes when on 2 naps, and often are on 1. However occasionally we've got 1hr 25 ish.

Here's the question - he's just waking up now, so that means 11.30 nap. An odd lunch time eat, but can deal with that. Then what? Even if he sleeps 1hr 30, that's still a long time until 7 bedtime.

Yesterday he woke 7.45, nap 12 to 1.30, sleep by 7. He was tired by 5.30, and grizzly at last bottle.
Worried about early BT as if he wakes earlier the next day, that moves the 4 hr A then nap even earlier, then he's even more tired for the rest of the day!

That's the bit I don't get. How do you deal with it?

Sorry to ramble - so confused!

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Re: Support Thread for 2-1 Nap Transition cont'd pt 4
« Reply #221 on: December 20, 2011, 21:22:49 pm »
Welcome!

Is he prone to early starts at all? 

To be in the 1 nap stage, LO really needs to be pushed to 4.5 hrs first thing for it to work... Don't be scared of EBT!  Many babies will tack on lost sleep during the 2-1 when they never would have before as long as the nap is pushed late enough.

When I moved DD to one nap - the first day I decided to start - the little bugger woke at 545am!  Pushed her to 1130am anyways... I really tried to keep BT set at 7pm as well and didn't put down for a nap before 11am (her average wake time was 615am).  If she did a short nap (less than 2 hours) I would keep things low key for the rest of the day and keep her up until 645pm...

If you do hit the OT wall, sneak a 2 nap day in using a very short 15-20 mins in the AM before 10am and then PD for afternoon nap around 1230/1pm and let him sleep as long as he likes to get rid of OT, adjust BT but no later than 8pm.



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Re: Support Thread for 2-1 Nap Transition cont'd pt 4
« Reply #222 on: December 21, 2011, 08:01:13 am »
Thanks

Ok maybe I need to go back to basics - how do I know he's ready for going to 1 nap?

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Re: Support Thread for 2-1 Nap Transition cont'd pt 4
« Reply #223 on: December 21, 2011, 20:36:52 pm »
Hi Ladies,

I haven't been on the board in a little while but I am running into a little problem.  It has been going on about a month and now I figured is a good time to finally figure it out.  DS finally started sleeping through the night about a month ago at 13 months...this coincided with weaning.  I presume he was using me as a pacifier all night, sound familiar?
Anyway, soon after this Ds would still go down for his nap after 3 hours of A time in the morning, sleep for about an hour and then go down after another 3 hours of A time for about another 1.5 hours.  The problem now though is that we had to limit the first nap to 30 minutes because he was refusing to go down for his second nap.  So we put him down after about 3 hours, 3 hours 15, he sleeps for about 30 minutes and we put him down after another 3/3 and a half hours after his first nap.  He then sleeps for about 1 and a half hours. 

This usually results in him waking at about 345-4, going down for the night around 730-745 and an early waking around 615.

Oh, the biggest problem.  It takes me an HOUR to put him down for his second nap, and about 20 minutes for his first nap.  I still rock him...I don't want to do cio.  I rocked my first son for 22 months and he never really had this problem..so i dont think its related.  I would appreciate any help or suggestions!  We tried two days of one nap at around 12 and he was a mess...he woke up continuously for the whole 2 hours.  Please let me know what you think!  Thank you!

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Re: Support Thread for 2-1 Nap Transition cont'd pt 4
« Reply #224 on: December 21, 2011, 21:01:07 pm »
Cyndie - YAY J!!!!  So you managed it even despite the school run then?!  Are you capping his nap at 1.5hrs or is that just what he sleeps?

We are still battling on, with a new EW problem.  O is well & truly on 1 nap, but b/c we started from EW, we have nap at 11-11.30.  I keep trying to shift it later & after a couple of weeks of improvement we get hit by EW again & we're back to square one.  I think his A's are increasing again & this may be what's causing his WU getting even earlier.  Back at 5.30am.  Of course b/c of shorter iffy nights he sleeps a longer nap of around 2hrs.  So.... I am thinking we need to get our nap to something like yours.  How the heck did you push it so much later???  J was napping at 10am ish wasn't he?  Did you just keep him up one day & stay with it for a week or 2 ???  Am just thinking this may just shock O into it rather than trying the gradual approach b/c it takes sooooo long that by the time we're getting close to where we need to be his sleep needs have changed again!

Oceanmagic - have you read the 2-1 stickys?
If he's taking a long time to fall asleep at the AM nap, or resisting his PM nap, the PM nap has shortened or his nights have shortened with EW &/or NW, they are the usual signs that the AM nap needs to go.  HTH.xx

dancer1007 - it sounds like he might not be *quite* tired enough at naptime, esp at that PM nap since its taking 1hr to fall asleep.  If you don't feel he's ready to make the jump you could try shortening that AM nap a bit more - maybe try 20mins?  You could always push it a tad later too - so its 9.40-10 rather than 9.15/9.30.  The A time before that PM nap should shorten a touch too, maybe try 2.75-3hrs as a start.   This will bring the PM nap earlier, therefore increasing the A time to BT which may help him sleep a longer night.  If you do feel he is ready you can make the jump to 1 nap, but perhaps start with nap at 11/11.30 instead of pushing him all the way to 12 as that is quite a long A time when he's not used to it.  Once he's used to it you can push nap later.  When you first make the jump to 1 nap, LO's can get very tired/OT so if naps are short for a while, EBT often helps.  And if he is struggling you can always throw in the odd 2 nap day to keep OT at bay.

ETA.  I also meant to say, if you are usually able to rock him at naptime & he's not waking at night needing to be resettled in this way then the rocking isnt a problem.  But if he is depending on you to help him fall asleep bc he doesnt know how to then I'd say that its become a prop & may be worth considering some sleep training to help him sleep independently.  HTH.x
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