Author Topic: when to offer solids before milk? (Read 6103 times)

*Kara* · « **on:** August 25, 2011, 22:56:58 pm »

DD is 9.5 months now and can be a bit of a challenge with solids... she was doing great until she had a terrible bout with constipation that ended in the ER. But that was a month ago and she is on Miralax now... the hope is that once she gets mobile, things will "move" a little better for her

Right now, she is on 3 (sometimes 4 bottles a day). The fourth is offered when she refuses breakfast of any sort. It's a small top up to get her through her AM nap.

Can I switch her to solids first, then milk an hour or so later at this age to encourage more solid intake? I know that formula should be her main source of nutrition until 1 year, but at this rate, she will be drinking formula until she is 4

Katchloe · « **Reply #1 on:** August 25, 2011, 23:38:19 pm »

I do solids first. My theory is it helps with her reflux but she takes three 8-9 oz bottles a day so I dont see the reasoning as to doing bottle first and getting more puke

ZacsMumme · « **Reply #2 on:** August 25, 2011, 23:40:19 pm »

Following along Kara...Z loves his milk but I suspect he is filling up too much on it and eating less solids.

I am still on 4 feeds and I know I should be down to 3

*Kara* · « **Reply #3 on:** August 26, 2011, 02:04:20 am »

Sara - you should be down to three and headed for 2

ZacsMumme · « **Reply #4 on:** August 26, 2011, 04:01:04 am »

I know .... but he just loves to BF 'sigh' I think I love it too. Anyway getting off topic. I am going to move to 3 over the weekend now he seems better

Hedgehog17 · « **Reply #5 on:** August 26, 2011, 11:28:16 am »

I think you can be flexible at this stage (up to 12mo) in terms of offering milk or solids first

You also need to see what times your child is hungriest for solids - is it at breakfast, lunch or dinner?

DS gets half his morning milk first thing (mainly to get the probiotic drops into him

) then he gets his breakfast solids, then the other half of his milk. Lunchtime it's solids first, then milk, dinnertime it's just solids then he gets his bedtime bottle.

He's having to get this much formula still as he's MPI so I can't give him any yoghurt / cheese / cow's milk in cooking yet.

His solids intake is slowly increasing now, so I'm not worried that he'll get there eventually, it might just take a little longer than 'average'

The other day I was running late with him so he had his lunchtime milk before his solids, and it didn't make any difference to what he ate!

So by all means try offering solids first for one meal, see how you go, and then you can increase it. DS held out for milk at first and didn't eat much, but he got there in the end

Buntybear · « **Reply #6 on:** August 30, 2011, 13:22:03 pm »

Kara - sorry your LO ended up in hospital, poor little mite

glad she is doing better now

I think as long as you keep an eye on her milk intake then try swapping round some of the meals to solids first and see how she does

http://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=57483.0

Going OT again here but felt I had to comment! Sara - i think it is fine to be doing 4 BFs a day at 10 months. I know I only dropped a day feed then, then the other one at 11 months but that was only as I was going back to work. Olly would have happily kept BFing longer (didn't fully stop till 14 months). Of course it depends on your view of BFing, your situation and how long you want to BF for but there aren't any time limits on dropping BFs IMHO. x

Shiv52 · « **Reply #7 on:** August 30, 2011, 13:35:36 pm »

Quote from: ZacsMumme on August 25, 2011, 23:40:19 pm

I am still on 4 feeds and I know I should be down to 3

Actually 4 BFs at 10 months is ok. Definately not 2 until at 1YO. We were down to 3 BFs most days at 10 months but still 4 some days too.

Posted same time as PP.

Shiv52 · « **Reply #8 on:** August 30, 2011, 13:36:21 pm »

Kara, how many oz of milk is your LO taking in a day at the minute?

*Kara* · « **Reply #9 on:** August 30, 2011, 17:00:02 pm »

Shiv - she averages 26 ozs a day, sometimes a bit less, sometimes a bit more. Days that are higher are generally because of sore gums with teething and she refuses solids and just wants a bottle for comfort... Then she generally has 4 bottles at 8 ozs each as opposed to 3 at 8-9 ozs each.

Shiv52 · « **Reply #10 on:** August 30, 2011, 17:21:23 pm »

I's say if she's having a good amount of milk (which she is) then it would be totally fine to star offering solids first some of the time.. Or offer half the bottle then solids a while later and then offer rest of the bottle if she wants it. I would probably keep milk first thing in the mornung but certainly vary whether you do lunch first etc. Then just keep an eye on the milk intake. If it starts to drop too much then re-evaluate.

*Kara* · « **Reply #11 on:** August 30, 2011, 17:27:28 pm »

It's only the morning that we have an issue with food refusal... This is her current schedule:

6am bottle 7 ozs generally, but I have dropped as low as 5 to see if she would eat more... no effect at all.
915am top up before nap as she isn't eating much for breakkie - 3 ozs (down from 5 originally)
noon - lunch of solids/water in sippy
230pm bottle 8 ozs (nap at 245)
530pm dinner of solids/water
745pm bottle of 8.5 ozs and BT 8pm.

It's just the morning that she is a pill about her food... I was thinking of doing solids when she wakes, then her bottle before her AM nap? Really, I guess the only way to know is to try it for a few days... And if she still refuses the solids, I could just offer the bottle instead.

Shiv52 · « **Reply #12 on:** August 30, 2011, 17:40:11 pm »

I personally wouldn't worry about it. My DD1 was never a big breakfast person at that age and I would have waited ages to give her breakfast. DH doesn't like eating first thing so assumed she was like him!! She eats better if its yogurt/fruit and then I used to give cereal at snack time. If she's taking a good amount of solids at lunch and dinner I wouldn't stress abotu breakfast. My DD also would have been too hungry after her night sleep to wait and enjoy a solid breakfast and really did need her milk first thing.

*Kara* · « **Reply #13 on:** August 30, 2011, 17:42:59 pm »

Thanks Shiv... that's really my gut feeling too.. I'm not a big brekkie person either... and I am sure that her top two center teeth are not helping matters right now! I can just about feel a corner of the first one... I anticipate a few rough nights this week when they cut

cuckoochick · « **Reply #14 on:** August 30, 2011, 20:39:25 pm »

C is also a poor eater at breakfast time, Kara. She hardly eats anything much except fruit. I keep trying different things but it just seems like she's not hungry but she does take a BIG BF when she wakes. I am starting to offer her a snack now at about 10:30am before she goes down for her morning nap just to make sure she is not hungry. We've also just moved to 3 BFs so I am now giving her lunch after her wake-up from her morning nap and then a milk feed at about 2-2:30pm. This has definitely helped with the amount of lunch she will eat and she has always been a good eater at dinner time.

Oh and we're getting the top teeth too! (and we thought they were going to be toothless teenagers!!!

)

ZacsMumme · « **Reply #15 on:** August 30, 2011, 22:38:27 pm »

ohhh I love your new pic Nicola!!! She is sooooo cute! We still have no top teeth

We are finally down to 3 feeds a day and 4 solid meals, breakie, snack before nap, snack after nap (both really finger food BLW) and dinner.

*Kara* · « **Reply #16 on:** August 30, 2011, 23:02:44 pm »

That's a great idea Sara! Instead of a lunch, do two snacks to give them a chance to try out that pincher grip!

Katchloe · « **Reply #17 on:** August 30, 2011, 23:05:54 pm »

That's a good idea! Ive been "bribing" dd to her highchair with finger foods then getting some real stuff in her then more finger food for a treat lol

ZacsMumme · « **Reply #18 on:** August 30, 2011, 23:55:30 pm »

hehe kara, we only got there because of two things
1) he isn't hungry enough for a 'meal' before his nap and
2) he hates lumps fro ma spoon 9and fair enough he only has 2 teeth still!)
Oh and I wanted to get 3 feeds!

So this helps him to chew, pick and choose what he wants, experiment with different tastes etc and kind of graze through out the day. I spent ALL day sunday making different little things for him to eat (and froze), he still prefers mini sandwiches the most though

I am so lazy I don't even bother with the high chair for these ones, he gets a big plate with a mix of things on it and we usually sit on the deck so the mess doesn't matter. My biggest problem is that he has learnt that the cats like his scraps!

PS I bribe Z too at breakfast, he loves toast so he gets that first bar one or two bits, then meal then last bits of toast hehe

*Kara* · « **Reply #19 on:** August 31, 2011, 14:28:53 pm »

I haven't given A toast yet - I still have a fear of choking

This will be great when she is 12 and I give her applesauce for breakfast still LOL! She does chew quite well and can manage lots of things so I will give toast fingers a try today!

Shiv52 · « **Reply #20 on:** August 31, 2011, 14:33:14 pm »

I've been giving R toast for ages and ages. And she loves it and never had an issue with choking. I do cut the crusts off though. And she also loves bread with cream cheese! She loves pancakes for brekkie too.

Katchloe · « **Reply #21 on:** August 31, 2011, 16:26:40 pm »

I'd like to try pancakes. Chloe does great with toast and loves it!

*Kara* · « **Reply #22 on:** August 31, 2011, 16:39:15 pm »

Toast was a big hit! I just used some of her fruit puree like a jam and she loved it!

I did pancake a few days ago - she wasn't a big fan. I will try them again in a couple of weeks!

Shiv52 · « **Reply #23 on:** August 31, 2011, 18:45:34 pm »

Woo!!

ZacsMumme · « **Reply #24 on:** August 31, 2011, 19:55:01 pm »

Toast is the best! We also cut the crusts off

Glad A liked it Kara

*Kara* · « **Reply #25 on:** August 31, 2011, 22:31:44 pm »

I cut the crusts off and just did strips about 1/4" wide for her to grab, since she can finally cram things into her mouth most of the time

ZacsMumme · « **Reply #26 on:** August 31, 2011, 23:48:01 pm »

LOL nummy! Can she handle mini sammies Kara? Z loves these too, same size with crusts off.....I have even spread cooked pumpkin on them when I have had nothing else and he loves that! But you can put anything in them really

Cream cheese and dried apricots are yum.

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Author Topic: when to offer solids before milk? (Read 6103 times)