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Rice cereal or oat Cereal?
« on: September 02, 2011, 04:34:13 am »
I find that the rice cereal is making my lo a bit constipated...has anyone found that oatmeal cereal helps with that?
Im thinking of switching to oats instead.
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Re: Rice cereal or oat Cereal?
« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2011, 04:44:46 am »
Baby's first foods don't have to be cereal.  The reason most drs recommend it is because it is iron fortified so therefore simple.  However, not all babies get on with cereals as their first foods (rice made my DD2 throw up, others made her reflux worse).  Instead I minced up chicken and she fed herself that.  Once she mastered that, I minced up beef for her and fed her the other veggies and fruit as well.  She had plenty of iron from the meat sources, and apparently it's more easily absorbed when it comes from a natural source as opposed to being an additive. 

Just something else to think about!  :-*
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Re: Rice cereal or oat Cereal?
« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2011, 09:43:11 am »
I found the same for my DD2 so I just stopped giving it to her and did others foods.  Its is very constipating for lots of babies. 
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Re: Rice cereal or oat Cereal?
« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2011, 14:14:17 pm »
Great, thanks for the advice :)
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Re: Rice cereal or oat Cereal?
« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2011, 17:36:25 pm »
If you want to use cereal, barley is best for keeping things moving nicely :)

But I also stopped giving cereal as a meal after a couple of weeks... avocado is a great first food.

Is baby BF or FF?  If on formula, you don't have to really worry about the iron thing just yet.
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Re: Rice cereal or oat Cereal?
« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2011, 02:50:33 am »
I am BFding.  I've stopped the rice cereal and just feeding her avacado mixed with a big of prune juice and my milk.  I'll see how her poops end up this next few days.
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Re: Rice cereal or oat Cereal?
« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2011, 03:22:08 am »
Avacado is a great first food for sure, just keep in mind that it can also be constipating.  :-\
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Re: Rice cereal or oat Cereal?
« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2011, 03:49:01 am »
Really?!  Goodness, is there anything that isn't constipating out there LOL!
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Re: Rice cereal or oat Cereal?
« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2011, 04:05:59 am »
Hey Kara, where are you in bc? 

Yup, avocados had to be followed with prune puree in our house.  :)
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Re: Rice cereal or oat Cereal?
« Reply #9 on: September 03, 2011, 04:10:14 am »
I'm in prince george, but I am from Nanaimo :)
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Re: Rice cereal or oat Cereal?
« Reply #10 on: September 03, 2011, 04:13:05 am »
If the Lord ever blessed us with another child, I would skip rice cereal entirely.  Constipation is our arch enemy!   >:(   It's not allergic, that is why it's reccommended as a first food. Soooo many docs and nutritionists reccommend veggeis first, like pp said.   Sweet potato is a good one.   But either way, switching cereal is fine, we did oatmeal.    :)
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Re: Rice cereal or oat Cereal?
« Reply #11 on: September 03, 2011, 04:32:35 am »
Quote from: *Kara* on September 03, 2011, 04:10:14 am
I'm in prince george, but I am from Nanaimo :)

We're in Nanaimo!  Would I know you?
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Re: Rice cereal or oat Cereal?
« Reply #12 on: September 03, 2011, 05:36:20 am »
How old is your LO?  I second that cereals don't have to be first foods.  Why not try pureed parsnips mixed with formula or breastmilk?
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Re: Rice cereal or oat Cereal?
« Reply #13 on: September 03, 2011, 17:54:56 pm »
Good idea Lemonthyme!  My DD loved parsnips!

Nicole - I don't know, Nanaimo is pretty big :)  How old are you?  I am almost 34.
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Re: Rice cereal or oat Cereal?
« Reply #14 on: September 04, 2011, 02:17:56 am »
Avacado is constipating too?   So what ISN'T constipating then? 
Mine is 5months old.

I just want to feed her something that isn't constipating.
So far this is what I know, or think I know....Cereal, carrots, sweet potatoes, bananas, avacado are all constipating?
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Re: Rice cereal or oat Cereal?
« Reply #15 on: September 04, 2011, 03:26:02 am »
Well prunes aren't, LOL.  I think a balance of anything in moderation is fine, of course that's easier said than done when we're talking first foods.  I don't think meat is constipating, so if her 'meal' was centred around meat with some fruit and veg, and even added cereal, then that's a balanced meal.  Hayden reacted to rice, and like I said all cereals made her reflux worsen.  She was fine on all veg and meat, with some fruit.  She was 8 months old when we first tried solids though. 5 months is still a bit young, and your LO should be getting mostly BM.  If your LO is getting constipated maybe she isn't ready for solids?  There's no rush, really. Solids at this stage are mainly snacks and for experimentation.  If something doesn't agree with her, then I'd leave it for a bit.  Feed her more BM, it's the only miracle food for them anyways, and give her a month or two to let her digestive system mature.  :-*
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Re: Rice cereal or oat Cereal?
« Reply #16 on: September 04, 2011, 04:39:22 am »
yup... apples are constipating too (unless given as a whole fruit!) and too much dairy can be constipating too ;)  And anything random that your LO decides to add to the list :)  Oh, and potatoes!

Good things for not causing constipation are: pears, peaches, plums, apricots, cherries, peas, beans...
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Re: Rice cereal or oat Cereal?
« Reply #17 on: September 04, 2011, 06:29:12 am »
I think it varies by kid.  The things we found constipating were banana and that was pretty much it.
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Re: Rice cereal or oat Cereal?
« Reply #18 on: September 04, 2011, 23:06:29 pm »
Trade you kids Lemonthyme!  LOL!  Mine gets backed up so easily at times!  Right now, teething is keeping everything on the move - a little too much!
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Re: Rice cereal or oat Cereal?
« Reply #19 on: September 05, 2011, 11:12:28 am »
Yeah, if anything he's always been the other way.  Loves his fruit and veg and was breastfed till he was 13 months which helped keep things moving I think.  Don't get me wrong, when his solids increased around 9/10 months his poos did get more solid ("finally I can flush the stinkers" I thought) but it didn't last!
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Re: Rice cereal or oat Cereal?
« Reply #20 on: September 05, 2011, 17:47:08 pm »
LOL!  I celebrated being able to flush a little too soon as well!  Now I would give anything to get back to that place!
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Re: Rice cereal or oat Cereal?
« Reply #21 on: September 10, 2011, 13:00:57 pm »
When did your LO's poo start to become more formed and not considered constipation? We have soft formed poos...like playdough balls!
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Re: Rice cereal or oat Cereal?
« Reply #22 on: September 10, 2011, 14:42:20 pm »
I started solids at 5 months and could flush at 7 months once she was eating a variety and a good quantity :) 

Now we are battling with loose poops... ugh.
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Re: Rice cereal or oat Cereal?
« Reply #23 on: September 10, 2011, 17:44:56 pm »
So how can you tell if constipated if you have the kind you can flush? My guy really gets sad and cries when he poos so I figure that is not good! Have been giving prune juice and today finally got a peanut butter poo. I am just confused about what they should be at this point (9 months). We are teething too so maybe that is why we got a looser one. I am going to start flushing! Why I haven't I thought of that! :)
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Re: Rice cereal or oat Cereal?
« Reply #24 on: September 10, 2011, 20:06:12 pm »
I think if your child gets really upset while pooing that's not a good sign.  Babies make faces and that's normal but it's not normal to be in pain.
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« Reply #25 on: September 10, 2011, 22:52:10 pm »
Agree with Lemonthyme... I always knew DD was constipated by the stickyness so to speak :)  If it would roll around in the diaper - not good... if it sticks slightly and you have to shake it a little, that's good :)

I use cloth, that's why I flush :)
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Re: Rice cereal or oat Cereal?
« Reply #26 on: September 14, 2011, 15:45:32 pm »
My doctor told me I could start rice cereal at 4 months old.  My son will be 4 months on the 25th.  Do you add it to the bottle or try and spoon feed it.  How many times a day do you give it?  If I put it in the bottle, I will have to make the nipple hole bigger or move to next size, but the next size is for 6 month old babies.  I don't know what is best.  Is rice cereal really necessary or should I just wait until he is 6 months?  Does it help with getting then to sleep longer?  My friend tried spoon feeding it to her daughter at 4 months to try and get her to start taking solids before she started baby food at 6 months?
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Re: Rice cereal or oat Cereal?
« Reply #27 on: September 15, 2011, 04:33:46 am »
I would not give solids to baby at 4 months.  Chances are he still has a tongue thrust reflex that would make it really hard anyways.  Is your doctor older??  It is no longer recommended to give solids before 6 months in most cases... doctors used to recommend it at 4 months though. 

Do not put cereal in his bottle - it is a choking hazard. 

He will not sleep longer, in fact, many babies sleep worse when solids are started as their little bodies are trying to digest food all night long.

When he is ready for solids (he will start to show interest and should be able to sit with minimal support on his own) - you can start with rice cereal one time per day... morning is best so that any reaction will happen early in the day and you can react to it as needed and baby will not be uncomfortable at night for bedtime.

I would hold off for at least 6-8 weeks.
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Re: Rice cereal or oat Cereal?
« Reply #28 on: September 15, 2011, 13:58:04 pm »
Kara, my pediatrician is older and said that I could start rice cereal at 4 months, but I wasn't sure about doing that especially if there is no benefit.  The last thing I want or need is more feeding problems.  I have enough now as it is.  Thanks for the information.
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Re: Rice cereal or oat Cereal?
« Reply #29 on: September 15, 2011, 18:07:54 pm »
A-ha! Older ped = older information... my doc is older and gave me the same advice ;)  I ignored him as should you :) There is no benefit to it at all...
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