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6 mo changes, NWs, and routine tweak?
« on: September 07, 2011, 14:53:03 pm »
DS is usually a great night sleeper. He only wakes if there's a reason- it's never been habitual. So I knew something was up with our routine when he suddenly started having frequent NWs within the past week and a half-2 weeks and it wasn't for hunger. When I do need to settle him whether for naps or after BT, I always try shush/pat and that usually works most of the time. If I give it a really good try and he's still very frustrated, I'll give him the paci.

DS abruptly stopped the DF 3 days ago (he kept refusing it) and he hasn't needed it ever since, and I was hoping stopping the DF would help with some of the NWs. And it has..the first two nights we went down to two NWs (that I had to settle for). Last night was only one, the later one, around 5 am. Just to see what would happen, I really wanted to not give him the paci too quickly. He started fussing at 5:09, and although I thought it was turning into a mantra, it was definitely escalating and DH was making me feel like a horrible mother, so I went in at 5:18 to shush/pat. He got really mad sounding so I think I made it worse. But since I made it worse, I stayed to calm him....I got him to a mantra cry (and couldn't remember if Tracy said to stay and don't touch or just leave when that starts). I tried both....but I feel like i'd always end up making him more frustrated (at least I think it was me). So at 5:55, because I felt I was making it worse and I wanted my boo to sleep, I gave him the paci and left. He was good until his morning feed at 7.

SO...ALSO we're working on reducing his day time sleep (if that's what the NWs are from), upping his A times, and getting rid of the CN. We did this successfully last night. Yesterday his first nap was 2.5 hrs, his second was an interrupted 2 hr nap (I had to transfer him from the carseat to the crib and it took him a good 20 minutes to fall back asleep) and BT was at 6:45. It was the best day we've had in a very long time.

Sorry I feel like I'm rambling, but do I sound like I'm on the right track?
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Re: 6 mo changes, NWs, and routine tweak?
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2011, 13:05:42 pm »
We had a 5:30 NW this morning...........help? :-\

I didn't go in for awhile bc he wasn't crying. It was a "eh eh eh"...."eh eh eh"....for like 20 minutes! Then he got really quiet and I thought he was falling back asleep but then he really started crying. So I went in, didn't try to shush/pat or anything- just gave the paci and left. I heard a few whimpers after but he fell back asleep until 6:45.

It's only been 4/5 days since dropping the DF....could it possibly be just that, like introducing the DF, it could take about a week to really make an affect?

We did much better with A times yesterday and he had roughly 3.5 hrs of day sleep so I don't think the NW had anything to do with that.
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Re: 6 mo changes, NWs, and routine tweak?
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2011, 15:29:07 pm »
I think his NW may actually be hunger-related, but he's resettling okay.  He's not having a DF, nor is he having a night feed; so his total number of feeds has dropped to 4.  Normally there is some kind of post-bedtime feed (DF or night feed) until LO is closer to 8/9 months old.  I would make sure that hunger isn't the culprit, tbh. 

How many oz is he eating total now?  When he started refusing the DF, what time were you doing it at?  I don't want to force you to reinstate the DF, I just want to make sure he's not waking dur to hunger.

Also, I'm going to pop this thread over to the NWs board :)
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Re: 6 mo changes, NWs, and routine tweak?
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2011, 15:45:02 pm »
I'm not sure how many ounces bc we bf. I did have to leave a bottle last night for DH for his last feed, which he took 5 oz. I was doing the DF at 11.

Should I try doing the DF earlier?....not sure how that would help if he wasn't hungry enough at 11 to take anything.

The NWs were creeping up several days beforehand....and they were 3-4 per night right before I stopped the DF, when I realized he really didn't want it. The first two nights I stopped it, he only woke twice, and these past two nights he's woken once (around 5/5:30).

I wouldn't mind doing the DF again at all it's just that it does seem like not giving it has been helping.
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Re: 6 mo changes, NWs, and routine tweak?
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2011, 16:34:47 pm »
Hmm, yeah, the timing of the DF could have been disrupting his sleep.  If you don't want to do the DF, that's completely fine.  But then he might wake up for a feed sometime during the night...usually there's a trade-off.  Just saying that so you know what to expect: that's it's completely normal--and somewhat expected--for LO to have some sort of feed after bedtime and before wake-up time.

For the time being, it sounds like he's doing okay.  He's easy to resettle with the paci.  Just keep an eye open for hunger signs or if he starts waking more frequently at night again.  Then it might be time to reassess :)
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Re: 6 mo changes, NWs, and routine tweak?
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2011, 16:43:01 pm »
So......you're saying I can just keep replugging him in the morning as long as he seems okay with it?
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Re: 6 mo changes, NWs, and routine tweak?
« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2011, 16:52:31 pm »
I think so.  It doesn't really sound like the pacifier is a prop issue.  He doesn't wake up early from his naps or at other times during the night just to be replugged.

It's really about what you want to do. :)  You've dropped the catnap, the two remaining naps are long, he only has 1 NW and is easily resettled for it.  I don't see anything wrong with what's going on...all my advice is more for you so that you can troubleshoot if needs be :)
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Re: 6 mo changes, NWs, and routine tweak?
« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2011, 17:46:55 pm »
Ok, well that's good to know! Thanks so much for your advice :) Since he's not hungry at night for another feed, I think I might try adding some more milk to his solids. I read about someone doing that on the 'dropping the DF' FAQ page.
Justine