Long night wakings

[stephnoah]

Hi, I posted this in the EASY section - but I think this is where it belongs.

My son is 4 months old and wakes up frequently at night.  Here is the background:
He's been waking frequently since 2 months
Last week I put him on a 4 hour easy - naps are so much better, night wakings are less frequent, but long (2 hours!)
I dream feed him in his bed with a bottle (formula) because he was getting too hard to resettle
He usually wakes around 6:30, but the EASY I am posting is for yesterday and he woke around 5:40.

He gets very grumpy during his A time, and sometimes wakes up grumpy and still tired.  My guess is that its from his lack of sleep at night.  Not sure though.

He sometimes falls asleep while eating.. I'm wondering if this is cutting into his night time sleep?



Yesterday our EASY started very early due to an EW - usually it starts around 6:30... but I will post yesterdays.

540 - W (this is when we heard him, it could have been earlier)
600 - E
728 - 945 S (I had to wake him)
945 - E (he doses off while eating - but he eats best when he is catching a few zzs)
945 - 1145 A
1145 - 145 S (i had to wake him)
145 - E (doses off again)
145 - 345 A
345 - 425 - CN
425 - E (he is cranky if I don't feed him when he wakes)
630 - E (only took 4oz because of feed after CN)
650 in bed awake, 658 asleep
10:20 DF
120 - 125 NW
330 - 530 NW
7 am Wake up ( I woke him up)


Any suggestions would be appreciated

[Bex09]

Hi there, it looks to me like you could be in a bit of an OT/UT loop. So your DS is tired from the NW but then catches up in the day by taking great long naps. He then goes to bed and when he comes into a light sleep in the early hours he isn't tired enough to go back off easily because of all the daytime sleep he has had, then the NW make him OT again by the next day and so on.

The fact that he is cranky towards the end of his A time and that he clearly wants to sleep longer as he falls asleep during his feed when he has just woken from a long nap all lean towards OT during the day.

When you say you have put him on 4 hr EASY was he on EASY before that and if so was it 3 hr or 3.5h? I am just wondering if an increase in his A times had led to him becoming OT and then causing the NW to be worse.

[stephnoah]

Hi, He was on a 3,5 - waking at his 40 mins and impossible to get back to sleep..

Last night we had 3 night wakings, 2:25, 4:25 and 5:45.. but this time he was super easy to get back to sleep.  This morning, he was pleasant, and did not wake up at all during his nap.. and he only got cranky maybe 10 mins before nap time.

I recently cut his NF, so I'm wondering if he's slowly getting used to not getting it? 

[stephnoah]

He just woke up, an hour and a half into his nap...  but not at his 30 or 40 min usual time.

[stephnoah]

If this is an OT UT cycle, how to I break it?

[Bex09]

TBH if things are starting to improve I would stick with what you are doing now. It could just be that it has taken a few days for your DS body clock to adjust to the new EASY and the fact that he isn't getting fed in the night now.