I am this close to letting him cry

[Love, laughter, & PJs]

Hugs.  BT was a disaster for us for ages.  Awful.  I actually found that more A time, not less, was what helped.  Sort of, anyhow.  Mostly it was just her getting older.  Sorry that's not helpful but it will get better.  More hugs.  He'll do fine tomorrow, I'm sure. 

[firsttimemummy]

Not related directly to this post, but, Jo, just wanted to say I am thinking about you for tomorrow.  Hope it goes well.  Hugs.

[*Kara*]

DD did a solid 3 hrs after her CN at that age, maybe he needs a little more time before BT to settle well?  That short night makes me think he was OT when he did finally pass out... I would give him a bit more A time and see what happens!

[Khalam's Mama]

They get ot by bt. B is often livid if he gets woken from his nap early by the time Bt comes around. I find if he wakes grumpy from the cn i need to push through until he gets over it. B really loves when K dances and jumps around it always stops the grumpy time. Maybe C can put on a show for him if he would like to?

[*Jo*]

hmmm well my SIL just text me, hes slept 20mins from 7am till now at 12.30... she said she tried patting him for 35mins and he only slept 20 at the end of that..

maybe Im jsut gonna have to get tough, in that sense of, well kiddo you just have to learn to sleep in other places and if you crash and burn, then you crash and burn

[*Jo*]

wow, today has been a nightmare....

I think Im just gonna wait until hes exhausted and then lay him down, Im sick of fighting him, im sick of guessing when he is tired only to find myself patting for ages, im just gonna let him go till he goes.

There is an issue wiht him being a tummy sleeper, it hurts him to sleep like that, it hurts his reflux BUT he refuses to sleep in any other position, Ive tried him on his back and his side, he just gets hysterical because hes always slept on his tummy and he likes it, just not at the beginning when it hurts him

[*Kara*]

I thought tummy sleeping was better for a refluxer?

[*Jo*]

Not mine.

Ok he's been up 13 hours and had a total of 1.5 hours sleep all day, I've been trying for the past two hours to get him to sleep, I tried feeding him, patting, I even put him in the moby and me and Caleb went for a walk. He had been up 3 hours after a 35 min nap at this stage and still he would not fall asleep in the wrap, it's gonna be an interesting night...

Oh and I'm pretty sure he's teething just to make matters worse.

[ZacsMumme]

I thought tummy sleeping was better for a refluxer?

Never helped mine either until the reflux was controlled, now he sleeps on his tum allll the time. Jo you mentioned he doesnt like sleeping on his side, did you try both? Zac was always most comfortable on his left side for naps. (BT I still put him on his back always) It is meant to help ease reflux pain and encourage digestion...

(HUGS) Jo

[*Jo*]

yep Ive tried both, he just rolls onto his back and he hates being on his back. I put a sleep positioner in but he still didnt like it, just cried and cried, to him its a whole new wide world that he can see because on his tummy he just sees the mattress pretty much.
I tried putting him to sleep on his side at his DF and that was fine until 4am when he rolled onto his back and hated it...

[janecharlotte]

Can you try him on his side first thing in the morning to get him used to it? I just weaned DD2 off the wedge and did it for her first sleep so that I could deal with ot later in the day rather than in the middle of the night.

[Smurfette]

Huge hugs to you!!!!!!!

At the risk of contradicting everyone, and when you want to try something else, I would urge you to try reducing his A times throughout the day.

The reason I say this is
a) your LO is very overtired and OT takes awhile to get out of. It won't be fixed after one long marathon nap.
b) it seems to me after I've skimmed this post, that you've had the most success after short A times
c) short naps are part developmental at this age, but they're also related to OT. Extending A times with an OT baby is going to cause more and more problems. I speak from experience.
d) your DS is still very young and some LOs cannot handle long A times

My suggestion is (and it's only a suggestion-take it or leave it) is to only keep him up for about an hour and a half through out the day. Maybe even a touch less-I know, I know-that is really short!
I'd reduce his A times for 4-5 days and see what happens. If it doesn't work, then at least you tried. If it does work, then you could try slowly extending his day/A times out again.

I'd also suggest not going in right away when he wakes at a short nap. Wait outside his room and give it a minute or two so you can assess what you hear. Once he's caught up with the OT, he may start to transition by himself and you in there might be interfering with him learning how to do it himself. He may also only mantra cry instead of hard crying so it might be easier to let him be.

If he takes a decent nap-anything over an hour, then I would consider it a good nap. I never consistently got the ideal '1.5hrs' nap and it drove me crazy. I was anxious and was stressed all the time. I tried extending naps all the time and I tried extending  A times and it backfired with EWs and NWs.

Hope some of this helps!
Hang in there!!

[mamakasi]

Maybe that sounds strange but my sister-in-law went through hell with her DS, he didn't sleep at all and it turned out to be  some kind of infection of urinary track (I'm sorry don't know how it is exactly in Eng). There were no other obvious signs for that, she learned about it only after doing some tests b/c her doctor suggested it.