Fruit

[~Emma~]

OK, DD eats tons of fruit. Lots and lots. Crazy amounts. Its been brought to my attention on another thread that it could be causing her discomfort becuase of the fructose.(NW due to gas pain) She is already MSPI so her foods are limited as it is. 

 I dont really know what I want to ask, just some advice really. Wendy gave me a link to a paleo site that lists the fructose content of fruits but tbh its all really alien to me. I need talked through it!

 Also any other ideas for snacks/pudding for MSPI would be fabulous. 

[MasynSpencerElliotte]

We get issues from some fruits too, so far pineapple, and anything citrus.  She doesn't digest apple, but it doesn't really seem to bother her at all when it is in her system.

We aren't soy free, so I'm not sure what to suggest for snacks as I am sure alot of the stuff we do has soy or trace soy in it.

[Buntybear]

Hi, here is the thread that started me on the fructose path!

http://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=191054.0

I used this table for foods to take out and trial

http://www.healthhype.com/nutrition-guide-for-fructose-malabsorption.html

If you think the NWs are digestive discomfort do you want to so what I did and write down on here what she has eaten for a couple of days and the symptoms? Something might jump out.

[~Emma~]

Yesterday - banana with brekkie, pineapple after lunch (NW were slightly reduced last night)
Today  - banana with brekkie, pear after lunch


 This is her on a waaaaaay reduced amount of fruit since I started the other thread a couple of days ago. Seriously she can eat about 5-7 pieces of fruit a day no bother. She eats alot of dried fruit for snack on the go. They mostly come out completely undigested but I dont know if thats something to worry about.

 She just sits and points at the fruit bowl through all meals and altohugh she has very few words 'foo' (fruit) is her most used one atm!

 I thought pears were good for digestion? Same with apples. I had a suspicion that kiwi was giving her bother a few days ago actually. 

[MasynSpencerElliotte]

They mostly come out completely undigested but I dont know if thats something to worry about.

I've been wondering that too, I mean raisins and grapes always do that to my kids, but is it normal?

[Mashi]

Emma I would not think that it is an allergy per se, or even an 'issue' with fructose - just a case of too much fruit. Fibre-wise, babies need

Babies/toddlers still need (in Engald) 5-a-day but what counts as one serving is much less than an adult. For babies and toddlers it is what will fit in the palm of their hand. So about 1/4 of a banana, a small piece of pineapple, a few chunks of mango, a quarter of an apple.  So if D is having a full banana that is a good portion of her daily fruit and veg requirements there.

Fibre-wise, babies need their age in years plus 5g to 10g to make up how much fibre they need. So for D that is 6-11g of fibre per day.  One banana is 3g, 1g in a handful of raisins, half of a pear is 2.5..then her breads and such, and it could just be a fibre overload.  That and more than the needed amount of vitamin C typically causes cramps and bloating and diarrhea.  So that also might be a factor - I know even now my DS can only eat half of a kiwi in one day, the combinatio of fibre and vit C in it is too much and he gets pretty soft poops.

The other thing to keep in mind is that the bowel absorbs sugar in order to work - and needs to. But too much sugar (so fructose) and it will definitely cause some digestive issues. But it doesn't mean she is intolerant/allergic, etc ... just that she is getting too much for her own system, kwim?

[Buntybear]

Oh yes agree with Mashi that it isn't necessarily an allergy or intolerance. The way I see it with Olly is that sugar (fructose in this case) feeds the bad bacteria and that is turn creates the gas. By cutting back significantly reduced the gas therefore the NWs.


TBH we have never trialled melon, mango and pear. I am still too scared to go back to NWs even at 23 months!

[~Emma~]

thanks girls. i think its a case of too much too. still had pain related wakes though even on the tiny amount she had the day before.

[my3girlsjde]

So glad you posted this. E lives on fruit. And you're right, with a limited diet fruit is definitely easy.

I know certain fruits seem to overload E faster than others if that makes any sense. This has made me think to figure out some of the lower fibre/fructose fruits for her as she loves them and it's an easy fix for her.

[~Emma~]

What are the lower fructose fruits?

 

[firsttimemummy]

snack ideas - bagels (of course ), rice cakes, oatcakes, crackers, breadsticks; home-made muffins/cakes/biscuits etc (so you can reduce/avoid the sugar etc)

also can you just miss the banana out of her cereal, or would she not eat it?  if so, give half a banana maybe?

[Buntybear]

What are the lower fructose fruits?

 

bananas, stone fruit, berries, citrus.

[my3girlsjde]

Not meaning to hijack a thread but seriously??? Bananas, stone fruits and citrus give E diarrhea   Berries ARE a good finger food though

[Jimbob]

My ds could not eat citrus fruits, stoned fruits, berries or raw apple whe he was younger. James would have abdominal cramps, mucous filled nappies and bad eczema flares. Having said that my dd would experience loose stools and lots of wind if she ate to much fruit.

Kelly x

[~Emma~]

She has been having a skin flare, I put it down to teeth as she's cutting two teeth. Now not sure. I know the NW aren't solely teeth related because meds dont work and when its just teeth meds work. Its also plain for me that its gas/tummy issues with the leg crunching.

 So, dont know where to start really. Today she has had only nectarine and thats it. Lets see what tonight brings.