routine change again?

[clairebear79]

Hiya hun - so that was a better nap than the previous day & a quicker settle right?  IIWM I'd give it at least a few days to let him adjust to the longer A before making a judgement as to whether its working or not.  I think you might still need to stretch him towards 5.5hrs A though.

WRT the 5.5hrs A being too long, hard to say really.  I think while he's only doing 5 in the AM & doing a 2hr nap its probably not, but as his nap has gotten shorter then it could well be.  So you might want to pull BT a touch earlier (maybe 15mins) if he seems to be struggling.  I think this is why you need to push the nap a bit later - so that as his daytime sleep needs reduce & the nap gets shorter, its not so long for him to last until BT IYSWIM?

As for the NW, for us, if DS is OT, we usually get NW's in the first few hours after BT, & then either restlessness from 4-5am onwards or we got EW.  3am WU's were usually teething related rather than OT.  How long is he awake at the NW?  Is he crying?  I know from your other post you suspected molars coming, so could that be the cause of the 3am NW?

[babyrose]

hi   alot better today took him less time for going to sleep for the past two wks. yes i think a longer A time is needed aswell he used to be such a sleepy head in the morning but i guess he is getting a bit older now so more A time is needed. i think these early rises dont help much and the early naps either and making things more difficult.

with the NW's he just calls out for me but no crying, they could be teeth causing it but if all goes well during the day its just one waking at 3 quick to settle no crying. its confusing!

[babyrose]

well last night we had company and A was abit later in getting to bed but still a reasonable time of 7:!5. he never moved all night til 5am quick settle and off to sleep. 6:20 one of his toys goes off never been played with since the night before!!! all i hear is bob the builder!! grr! thats the latest he has slet.

[clairebear79]

thats the latest he has slet.

Thats great!  Perhaps this proves you are heading in the right direction?!  Stay with it & see where you are in a few more days.xx

[babyrose]

i hope so! he took a wee while longer to settle for his nap so it was 5hrs 25, and im just about to wake him at the big 2hrs mark!! yipee!!!

[clairebear79]

Woohoo!!!!!

[babyrose]

i cant believe it, we are finally getting somewhere and A has a cough and cold!

[clairebear79]

We have a cough & cold too.  We've taken a step backwards today.  After a week of 7am WU's for the first time since he was about 5 months old - back to 10.5hr night & a 6.10am WU - ugh! 

Glad things are going well for you though!xx

[babyrose]

oh dear its awful isnt it, we all seem to be getting better then all of a sudden we are all ill again! i hate winter.  things will get back to normal for you soon

keep you posted xx

[babyrose]

A refused to go to sleep at 5.15, but DH managed to get him settled and that was almost 6 hrs im going to put up his A time again tom, what do you think?

[clairebear79]

See how he fares tomorrow but sounds like it may be what's needed.  We're doing a consistent 5.5hrs (occasionally a touch more) & he manages it fine.x

[babyrose]

we had awake up of 4:30 this mrng a nap of 10:05 for 1hr 55. which would make b/time 5:25! what do you think i should do it
far too early!!!
we had such an awkward day yesterday

awake 6:25
nap 12:20 (2hrs 2mins)
bed 5hrs 25

for some reason i think that 2mins made him UT and thats why he woke at 4:30.

[clairebear79]

Oh dear. 

Have I got this right - yesterday he did 6hrs A before his nap, 2hr nap then almost 5.5hrs A to BT?

Has he still got his cold?  Did he wake happy or unhappy?  So that was an almost 8pm BT & a 4.30am WU?  I doubt very much that was UT hun.

Here's what I've found out with my LO.  When he was doing 5hrs or less in the AM he could handle 5.5hrs A to BT pretty well.  Since I've stretched him out to 5.5hrs in the AM followed by a 2hr nap, 5.5hrs in the PM makes him OT.  So we now do 5.5hrs to nap, 5hrs to BT.  Our day today was pretty similar to yours yesterday & b/c he was up slightly early at 6.30am & did a 6hr A to nap, we had to do his BT even earlier tonight at just 4.75hrs A b/c he was super tired.  Just hoping it doesn't backfire tomorrow!

I'm not saying this is the case with your LO, esp since he's a touch older than mine, but something to consider.  My only other though is this: is 2hrs a typical length nap for him?  As maybe he's getting to an age where it needs capping a wee bit shorter.  I certainly wouldn't attempt this just yet, esp while you have an EW & a cold to contend with, just something to keep in the pipeline.

How did he get on today?

[babyrose]

yip 5 hrs 55 and 2hr nap 5.25 b4 bed, he woke a little upset, maybe just his cold. it seemed not that long ago 5 hrs in the the morning and then 5.5 hrs b4 bed he would usually wake at 3 but now i think about it he just woke neither happy nor crying and a quick cuddle back to sleep til whenever i woke him in the morning.

with the 4:30 rise he had a 1hr 55 sleep and got him to bed at 6:45 with 1 NW at 11pm and up at 6:05 this morning. which was quite a good sleep.

i was thinking maybe cutting his nap by 5 mins, there has been a few times when he has woke up on his own and ive kept the same b/time and he has went down so much easier but i wasnt sure how that would affect him.

[babyrose]

it took me 30 mins to get him down for his nap, i dont know if its the cold and teething thats really bothering him or just his A times are needing tweaked hut he never used to be like this. nap times was the easiest times for him to go to sleep and now i have to help him to sleep.

he only slept for 1hr 30