What are the symptoms of egg intolerace/allergy in a BF baby?

[Vicku]

Question as title.
DD3 has "colic" and I suspect she has reacted to cow's milk protein in my BM as I was dairy free for 10 days with some improvement (although ups and downs) then had some milk and she got really really bad, screamed almost all her waking time for 3 days, then improved a bit again and now we're about 12 days dairy free but have had some really bad episodes. After the "milk-accident" on day 10 of dairy free, it took about 8 hrs from me having the dairy til she started reacting to it.
The last few days she has had two bad screaming episodes (inconsolable crying lasting several hrs each) about 8 hrs after me having egg. I just thought of it and then a mum at playgroup said they often get rashes with egg intolerance/allergy, and she has had a rash coming a couple of days ago too. All over her face, neck and chest. She's had this before too, at two weeks she was covered. I'm just wondering if anyone has more info about egg intolerance and some advice on how to proceed. I've also noticed she gets a stuffy, blocked nose with snot a lot. Perhaps a cold but it's been worse around the same time as the rashes No idea if it could be food intolerance related or a viral rash and a cold

It is so awful seeing your baby so distressed so often andnot know what to do

[MasynSpencerElliotte]

{{{hugs}}}  We didn't pick up on Spencer's egg allergy until she ate some of it when she was about 7/8 months old...although she did have ezcema and odd rashes as a baby, but I always attributed that to dairy as I am not a big egg eater, but then I suppose it could have been that.  Is cutting out eggs for a bit a possibility?  That way you can have some and see what the reaction is to it after having been egg free for a bit.

[Buntybear]

Hi, We are the same as Heidi really.

I would take it out your diet for a couple of weeks and see how she is.

x

[mini me]

Hey Vick! DD had an allergy to egg when I was BFing. She had a nasty itchy rash on her face and head. It used to appear 2-3days after I had eaten it, so it was tricky to spot on my elimination diet. We were advised to go egg free until 18mths old. Then she tested ok and no probs since. We even had to delay her MMR as it has egg traces. Hugs for you both

[my3girlsjde]

Hugs. The other thing I wanted to ask about not to add more stress but the possibility of soy. If I remember correctly 40% of los who have an issue with dairy also have an issue with soy.

But if you're thinking egg for sure, like pp's have said go with egg free for a few weeks and see how she is.

I know this is hard but you can do it.

[Vicku]

Thanks!

I'm pretty sure I had egg yesterday as had some (milk-free) cake at playgroup, thinking I could spoil myself a bit as it was dairy free. Realised it probably had eggs in it though (chocolate cake) and DD had a really bad evening and more congestion and snot through the night..

For those of you who don't know I have a thread in CR&C for support, here http://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=227434.0
but wanted to post here to get some more food intolerance/allergy eyes. I'll leave this tread for a while to see if I can get more info on egg, soy and milk int. then may get it locked and just keep the one thread for support.
So for egg, is tummy pain, gassiness and crying/screaming symptoms, as well as a rash? Andi, did A have any other symptoms apart from the rash?

Vicki, I've been doing soy free for 2 weeks now justin case, but thanks for the thought.
And a Q for those who know about soy, does soy lecithin have to be avoided too?

[my3girlsjde]

Vicku  I was told to avoid it It's in a lot of foods and I used it to prevent blocked ducts.

I meant to add that you described E perfectly with that behaviour only we never did find the cause as she was always fine with eggs. But it definitely sounds like she's got an issue with them.

The other thing I wanted to mention was it was pointed out to me that when you're on an ED make sure you get a variety of foods. When you drop one food it's common to substitute another and eat a lot more of that instead answer that can sometimes overload your lo.

I also found soy in the almond milk I had been drinking for a while. That stuff is everywhere! I had a list of common milk ingredients as they appear on packaging and kept it on my phone. Will try to find that list for you.

More hugs and support sweetie

[my3girlsjde]

There's actually a great one right here, not sure if you've seen it:

http://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=135427.

[MasynSpencerElliotte]

So for egg, is tummy pain, gassiness and crying/screaming symptoms, as well as a rash?

That pretty much covers it for us, the last time she had some (maybe a year and a half ago) baked into cookies she turned bright red all over and had tummy pains and diarrhea later on.

[my3girlsjde]

This happens when E has dairy. I thinks it's safe to say egg issue

[Vicku]

Thanks so much! Will print off that list.. Yep, it seems milk issue and egg issue.

I'm already finding it hard to know what to eat/cook for dinner. I really am terrible and doesn't enjoy cookin AT ALL, so it will be a challenge... But I'll happily do it for my little girl just got to figure out how

[my3girlsjde]

Dinners weren't so bad here but I found sacking a real challenge. Homemade soups frozen ahead are a great failsafe . Spaghetti is a great one as are stews and a lot of meals with rice. Coconut milk is a great substitute for both cooking and baking, and ever since all this started I've replaced margarine in most baked goods with oil. Applesauce is a great egg replacement when baking as well.

There's tons of recipes here and a lot of us who have BTDT with an ED so feel free to ask anything

[MasynSpencerElliotte]

I don't enjoy cooking/baking either...but at least I just have to come up with stuff for Spencer and not myself!  She is gluten free as well, which adds another dimension.  Applesauce is my usual egg replacer too. 

[mini me]

Hi Vick! No other confimed symptoms apart from severe itchy rash. I hated my EDiet as I had to keep off onion, garlic and coffee too! It gave A terrible colic/cramps about an hour post BF. Food was so bland for 6mths! Couldnt even tolerate traces of onion - so no stock either!

[Vicku]

Thank you!
Howcome applesauce can replace eggs??
I need a recipe for pancakes actually. Have you got any favourites?
And ideas for sandwiches?? I'm geting sick of ham and mustard which is the only thing I can think of without dairy or egg.

[MasynSpencerElliotte]

I have a great pancake recipe, will find and post it when I am on the computer.  Applesauce (or banana, or flax) are similar to egg in that they bind things together. Not as well in some instances, but okay enough.

Do you like avocado? I love to slice it in a sandwich.   

[Buntybear]

Here is Heidi's pancake recipe 

1 cup flour (I mix millet, rice & coconut flours)
1/2 tsp baking soda
2 tsp baking powder
1/4 tsp salt
2 tbsp sugar
1 cup soy milk (I've done 1/2 water, works the same)
1 1/2 tbsp veg oil
1/2 tsp vanilla
applesauce (I use the little 1 serving size pots, probably amounts to 1/3 cup

[Vicku]

Thanks you both!
Is baking soda same as bicarbonate of soda? And suppose I can switch soy milk for oats milk?

Does anyone know if there are allergy tests you can do this young or do they always wait til older?
Aimie's been crying a lot still, often starts suddenly like she's getting tummy cramps. Rash is fading a bit though. Today she had a slightly mucousy poo and was really struggling with it until it finally came out after a few hrs of her being in pain

[clazzat]

You should be able to manage sheep or goat cheese - so you can have a proper sandwich with cheese! Not sure what your options are over there, but Roquefort and manchego are both sheep cheeses, and there are a fair few goat cheese options in the uk.

If you want to avoid cheese altogether, you could try an open sandwich with salad, chutney and ham - they are pretty good and might make a change.

[MasynSpencerElliotte]

I don't know how oat milk would work, but it is worth a try - I've had to use water when we ran out of soy and it was fine.

Here they usually won't test under 1 - 1.5 years, but not sure if other places are different. Not that testing gave us any clarity, she tested negative to things she clearly reacts too.

[katyusha]

I did pancakes with oatmilk and it was nice for shrove tuesday. my recipe had oil to substitute for butter and orange juice(?!). It was yummy, as also had to exclude dairy, soy and egg. I find oat cream is nice in soups as well.

[katyusha]

I like houmous sandwiches. Either just bread and houmous or with avocado, lettice and tomato. Also if you don't like cooking from scratch, I like to buy ready to eact quinoa and then I just chop avocado, tomato, cucumber, spring onion in it or cucumber, tinned fish and spring onion and nice lunch taken care of.

Also at work I get this salad in a wrap and it is basically houmous, tomatoes, coriander, rocket, thin sliced carrot and toasted pumpkin seeds, plus spring onion, flat bread wrap and japanese weed (kombu) which I think could be substituted by marmite. It is nice and popular. Kids like lentils so rice or potatoes with them are popular. Also pizza without cheese is good, and can get takeaway.

 I was wary of coconut and turned out to be right - M has alergy to it and to chickpeas. So I can eat houmous and some coconut curries becasue he seems to tolerate it that way but I stopped giving houmous or chickpeas to him and don't give him anything with coconut. His allergy to egg is stronger so there I have to exclude it as well and the allergy specialist said that I need to give each eliminated ingredient about 2-6 weeks to really show results. Same for adding back in. At the moment M has mild allergy to dairy and soy but 6 months ago it was high. Apparently up to 90% outgrow dairy allergy by 3 y.o. (75% by 2), so there is hope yet.

Our specialist told us that there is a link between dairy, soy and egg allergies and they tend to be together. Our symptoms were itchy eczema rash, vomittinig or constipation or both and respiratory ( sniffly nose). It took a while to click as so many other alergens, but actually just eliminating the main culprits was enough in our case. best of luck!

[my3girlsjde]

Here they usually won't test under 1 - 1.5 years, but not sure if other places are different. Not that testing gave us any clarity, she tested negative to things she clearly reacts too.

This was a big frustration for us also. E tested negative on a RAST blood test after having a reaction right in front of my Dr to two sips of milk (one of them she spit out).

Hummus is lovely as a sandwich spread and as a chip/veggie dip. Be careful of your breads as many contain dairy and/or soy. I learned when reading labels that if it said vegetable oil then it usually meant soybean oil. I only went with packaged goods that said canola oil. A lot of breads have skim milk powder in them. Do you have a bread machine?

[Vicku]

No bread machine but would like one. Thanks for all the tips and help
I've no idea if this is "just" intolerances and will go away within the usual colic timeframe of a few months, or more than that. I'm feeling bad today though. Her rash has got worse again!?! And she's clearly not feeling well
Aimie has an appointment with a doctor on Monday as part of her check-up with the child nurse, so will discuss things then but I have thought about going on a stricter ED to see if we have more immediate improvement as things are still so bad. Then I could add in one thing at a time to see how she reacts. Would that be a good idea do you think? I've been off eggs since Tue last week and milk and soy since then too, plus milk 10 days before that. Perhaps I'm just being impatient and it is too soon to tell? Idk... it is just so hard to see her like this and it is so hard to get through the days with the other girls and all that needs doing...

[katyusha]

Vicky, it does sound like an allergy, even though of cause it coud be several unrelated things. I remember DD had bad gas and crying from the soups I ate which had cabbage in them. But allergy sounds more likely. have you thought of keeping a food diary for yourself to see what else it could be? A had No contact with animals, other irritants?

Also what has GP prescribed? Anything to reduce the skin itch or irritation?

 Atvthe moment E has a rash on her back, front and face/neck and I am not sure from what. She has not had an allergy that bad for about 3 years so I am puzzled. My bet is it is heat rash because she got it after a v. Warm spring day here but who knows. It does not bother her too much so I just keep moisturising and that's it.

[Vicku]

I really really appreciate your help and support girls I'm going to continue posting on the CR&C thread http://babywhispererforums.com/index.php?topic=227434.0 and ask for this to be locked so I just have one thread going. Please pop over there instead, I've updated there. Seeing doc today.