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Re: What to do if EBT doesn't work?
« Reply #15 on: March 23, 2012, 08:14:54 am »
I think oyur best bet is to keep the nap early especially if oyu think oyu might need to pull it back by september which if she's anything like D would be impossible!

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Re: What to do if EBT doesn't work?
« Reply #16 on: March 23, 2012, 08:23:02 am »
i feel for you both!  I also think that you should just do fixed nap time.  Perhaps EBT at 6:30 was too early, try 7?  But if she is so OT, right now, you might need EBT again.  Try moving bt 15mins earlier tonight to see night sleep improves, if not, then move 15 mins more.

I am wishing all these NWs away for all of you!!  xx



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Re: What to do if EBT doesn't work?
« Reply #17 on: March 23, 2012, 10:40:57 am »
Here to help if I can lovely, although I think the girls have it under wraps....I hope so anyway ;)

How was last night?

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Re: What to do if EBT doesn't work?
« Reply #18 on: March 23, 2012, 11:06:37 am »
girls, have you worked out what the NWings are all about?? Is it a girl thing???




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Re: What to do if EBT doesn't work?
« Reply #19 on: March 23, 2012, 11:14:46 am »
My girl's just a pest ::) She did sttn last night though ;D But that's not the norm!
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Re: What to do if EBT doesn't work?
« Reply #20 on: March 23, 2012, 11:53:26 am »
I think oyur best bet is to keep the nap early especially if oyu think oyu might need to pull it back by september which if she's anything like D would be impossible!
Yeah on reflection I think i need to do this otherwise she'll not be napping from September as it will be too late. 

She seems to be managing the long A time to bed well TBH.  Even when we go to collect DH from work at 5.30 sometimes (and that will be 5.5 A time and a 45 minute round trip) she doesn't even close her eyes.  because I had thought of APing a CN every few nights to keep the OT at bay but she just won't have it. 

She slept well (for her!) last night!!  She woke at 3.14 (which is typical) so i think I'll try wake to sleep today to see can we get over that waking and then was up at 6.30.  I took her into bed and she tossed and turned until DH got up at 7.15 and he took her downstairs.   

girls, have you worked out what the NWings are all about?? Is it a girl thing???
I think its mostly boldness here Becky!  She's trying to see how far she can push my sanity.   Probably teeth, probably half prop too as i had been feeding or talking her into bed with me but she had been waking M and one whiny baby I can manage during the day but the whiny baby plus OT, whiny 3YO plus no proper sleep has me at the edge of my patience!

So wake up 6.30 today, we went to the library and rhyme time and she fell asleep on the way home at 11.10.  Of course the water company are replacing pipes right out side our house so I had to park the next street over and carry her in and she woke but I managed to get her resettled (thank goodness she is fab at being transferred and resettling) and she's still sleeping and hopefully will stay that way until 1pm when i have to wake her to go get M.    But the way the flipping workmen are hollering at eachother right outside it'll be a wonder if she can stay asleep through it.

The NWs I am resettling with very little fuss, just dummy and shh but she is not a happy camper about it.   






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Re: What to do if EBT doesn't work?
« Reply #21 on: March 23, 2012, 13:21:15 pm »
Hugs Shiv. I'd keep with the early nap time too. C naps from 1-2:30/2:45 now as MIL kept putting her down late and I can't get her down any earlier than 1 now! ::) Her final A to bed is shorter but I think she's ready to increase that a bit too as her nights are shortening and we've got a lot of singing at BT. ::)

Good luck with it all. I'm wanting to keep those long naps as long as possible but I think we'll drop early here if any of the other transitions are anything to go by!




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Re: What to do if EBT doesn't work?
« Reply #22 on: March 27, 2012, 11:35:14 am »
Sorry Shiv. Been MIA a while.  ::)

 So have you decided to keep the nap early then?

 We have many NW now as she is STILL cutting these bloody molars.


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Re: What to do if EBT doesn't work?
« Reply #23 on: March 27, 2012, 11:46:59 am »
Yes but we are still all over the place. 

She has mostly been napping 11-1 (when I have to wake her) but yesterday she refused to sleep and was faffing about and I had some one call so I got her up and she didn't sleep until we went on the preschool run so slept 1.30-3.15.
Bed for 7.30. 

But we had wake up at 10.00-11.30????  Then woke again at 1am but i resettled her but then woke at 2am and faffed about and shouted and carried on and woke Maeve and DH got up and took her downstairs and they slept there until 7.30 aand I got M back to sleep.  Am flipping shattered today.

These NWs are killing me.  it seems her nights aren't really affected by her days KWIM?  She is getting 6 teeth (all her incisors) and had a bout of constipation there which I know was waking her so we've cut back the dairy AGAIN. 

Normally her nights aren't too bad but last night was hopefully a one off but she still wake at least once, most likely twice usually at 3.14 (yes!) and 6.30 ish. 

I know i am clutching at straws here but can hunger wake them at this age?  I do wonder because she is eating very very little and I'm not BFing in the day any more except maybe once.    She has a BF am and bedtime.  The once night we got only one NW I fed her up all day and gave her a huge bowl of cereal before bed.  I know we always say hunger wouldn't be an issue at this age though!!  But that would be an easy fix eh?

And on the teething front how long is it ok to give meds for?  I feel like I have been giving them at bedtime forever and it  says to not give for more than 5 days.  If its  only 1-2 doses is it ok for longer? 





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Re: What to do if EBT doesn't work?
« Reply #24 on: March 27, 2012, 12:33:52 pm »
Listen my bird, I have been giving meds every. Single. Day. For weeks and weeks. I cant remember a day I didn't give her any through the night or in the day. My doc didn't seem to worried. W ehave had every illness under the sun recently and then some. PLus molars on top.  :'(

 You know what I'm going to say dont you? Its not hunger. And if it is I dont think you should feed at this age. D isn't eating now either what with one thing and another and it has passed my mind but I think once NF are gone for a while they become programmed to know that they simply dont get food in the MOTN kwim? Just like if  you keep a NF its all the harder to drop. Hope Im making some sense.

 NW killing me too. Night before last was up from 3am and din't go back down until half 5, B was up at 6. Last night it was an every 45 min affair through til morning.  Work are not impressed with me going in everyday with eyes like holes in the snow. I am a shadow of my former self right now.  ;)

DO you think the nap refusal was UT or teeth? I dont think you can make much sense of anything until these teeth are through hon. 

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Re: What to do if EBT doesn't work?
« Reply #25 on: March 27, 2012, 12:43:31 pm »
we are going through this too with M, all of it. I too worry about meds, I just posted about it actually. Hugs shiv xx




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Re: What to do if EBT doesn't work?
« Reply #26 on: March 27, 2012, 15:26:31 pm »
Yeah i haven't been feeding except the very odd time when I have literally had enough.  Bad i know. 


DO you think the nap refusal was UT or teeth?
I think it was UT and then with BIL calling it just became OS and got a second wind. 

I dont think you can make much sense of anything until these teeth are through hon.
YOu know in a way this makes me feel better because if its totally out of my control then I can stop torturing myself and trying to think of ways to make her sleep. 

{{{{hugs Becky}}}}  You too Em {{{}}}  NWs suck so much.  I would kill for a decent 4-5 hour stretch at this stage!





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Re: What to do if EBT doesn't work?
« Reply #27 on: March 27, 2012, 19:13:37 pm »
ITA re the teeth, the fact is if you try hard core "sleep training" now you won't last out half an hour because you'll be feeling guilty knowing she's teething! ((hugs)) NWs are a (crappy) part of my life ::)
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Re: What to do if EBT doesn't work?
« Reply #28 on: March 27, 2012, 19:49:55 pm »
UGH!!  And i thought M was a rubbish sleeper!  I am just so much tireder this time round.  Makes me doubt i could ever have a third, ever ever!

Am glad you guys think there is no point sleep training at this point.   I'll wait til these teeth are through and see how it goes.  TOday she slept 11.15-12.45 and then slept 5.30-6 (late I know but she was BUSTED!) as we were out getting DH but she was in bed asleep at 8pm so we;ll see how tonight goes.  Wee monster! 






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Re: What to do if EBT doesn't work?
« Reply #29 on: March 29, 2012, 14:14:16 pm »
Hello,

We're going through similar thing at the moment with teething and NWs (last 4 molars tho so hope will all be over soon and I forget all about it too or L might never get a sibling :P).

She's in need of a bit or re-sleep training since a regression (before these molars) but I am thinking will prob wait til teething over before tackle that in real earnest. Just hope won't come as too much of a shock to her and we won't have set up too many bad habits in the meantime. She ends up in our bed most mornings cos she won't resettle in her cot if she wakes after about 4/4.30am and DH and I need to be at least partially human for work! I never imagined we'd start co-sleeping at 18 months. Never done it at all before (tried once or twice when she was tiny but didn't work! ::) )

Anyway, sorry for ramble.. Emma - I just wondered what you said about meds. I'm giving L mostly nurofen cos calpol doesn't really seem to help. Do you know if it's ok to give that (ie nurofen, not calpol) on avg 1 dose/day for a long period (few weeks)? Is that what you use? I know (or I assume!) you're not an expert, just wondered if ur dr had said anything about that? Nurofen seems 'stronger' than calpol in my mind...

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