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Ideas for good imaginative play idea websites?
« on: June 24, 2012, 10:38:42 am »
Hi All- I was doing some looking on pinterest and came across these GREAT webpages... One about 'invitations to play':

http://www.theimaginationtree.com/2012/05/creating-invitations-to-play.html

and on organising toys:

http://www.theimaginationtree.com/2012/05/creating-invitations-to-play.html

So- others might have seen these ideas before- but i'm new to the game- so they are new ideas for me!! Simple perhaps.. but still- simple is best!

If anyone else has some other good websites on play ideas- especially for toddlers/preschoolers then i'd love to see them!
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« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2012, 10:49:59 am »
I also liked this- do's and don't for toys...

http://thelittlestories.com/2011/12/07/toy-shopping-dos-and-donts/
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« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2012, 12:18:46 pm »
great ideas Katy - I love the invitations to play - going to do some of them for sure.




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« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2012, 12:32:27 pm »
THe only trouble is that i look at some of them and think- RIGHT! I'm onto that TOMORROW!! Except i figure i should probably wait till hamish is walking- and not eating all the fun 'imaginitive play' stuff... I think i'll start on the toy streamlining...
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« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2012, 14:35:53 pm »
Ooo, love the ideas in those invitations to play!

I thought I was quite good already about rotating toys, but after reading that link I think I could be a lot more hardcore. Keen to give it a go :)
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« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2012, 18:05:22 pm »
I am going to have a go at the play doh, cake cases one with H on tuesday and i have just made a treasure basket for M!!




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« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2012, 02:56:47 am »
Ok- how often should i rotate toys? Today i finally got around to clearing out all of the baby toys and putting aside the stuffed animals. What did his majesty do- started playing with the baby toys like they were the greatest thing ever!! I'll still put those away- BUT it highlighted that i REALLY need to rotate- he has really stopped playing with some of his toys. THat means that he gets into everything else!

So- the above websites had some good ideas for dividing them up and packaging them.. but how often should i change them?

Also- should i rotate things like the duplo and blocks out? Or are they the sort of things I can keep always there? Should i have duplo there and blocks at the same time? or one or the other, not both?

Also- he's 13 months and already has enoguh stuffed animals/toys to sink a ship!! What do you do with them all? I find it hard as i don't want to chuck them as many were gifts... but he doesn't play with many of them...

I really liked the philosophy on the above websites about the toys she calls 'SCLANS' toys focussing on shapes, colours, letters and numbers- I HATE these for babies!! being exposed to text is one thing- but they really don't need the alphabet for AGES!! Today hamish was 'playing' our piano (can you tell i'm trying to encourage the prodigy side! :p ) and he was touching the letters on the front- I thought- 'yes- this is the way we learn about letters!' not in toys that are devoted to that!!
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Re: Ideas for good imaginative play idea websites?
« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2012, 08:32:45 am »
That Little Stories website suggested every two weeks - but I'm going to start with every week and see how we go. I think I will rotate on Sunday evenings ready for Mon morning.

So I sorted out all of our toys this morning and have divided them into three lots. This week we are starting with:


Ride on cow               M
Set of three large balls       M
Tin whistle                       M
Three piece puzzle       T
Container of stars       P/T
Two mid-size cars       P
Bead threading toy       T
Crayon set                       T
Stacking bath toys       T
Set of small toy chairs       T/P

She also has a "story mat" with cushions, soft toys and her book shelf, which will stay. Not sure yet whether I will start putting out fewer books and rotating them too :-\ She has heaps of soft toys on this mat but really does play pretend with them - dressing up, feeding, reading stories to them etc. The only other thing staying at this stage is her marble run, which is attached to her shelf. She only has one set of blocks, and I'm planning to rotate it.

Know what you mean about the baby stuff - I have left a few still. Eg, she has a few nice quality teething or rattle type things that I am leaving because a) she is super chewy atm with canines coming through and I'm hoping to encourage her to go back to chewing on them rather than inappropriate things, like me ::) and b) I can put the rattles together with a tin or two to make a sort of music set.

I have to admit we have a couple of SCLAN type stuff but it is multi-skill based I think - like a shape sorter, it's practising fine motor skills. And F definitely has a vocab of 100 words and more than two word sentences, which seems to be when he says you can start to intro them.

Ooo, I feel all virtuous and organised now, this is great! We'll see how long it lasts ;)
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Re: Ideas for good imaginative play idea websites?
« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2012, 08:51:47 am »
Katy, thanks for sharing these.  I have come across the website before but never really had time to look. 

I thought about rotating toys but DS rotates what he plays regularly also but i am a bit lazy and need to rearrange things to have storage for the toys, but Nuala, thanks for sharing that,too.

Are u all going to have all these supplies for invitation to play?  Jars and jars of art supplies, etc?  Hw to do that practically?  I dont like mess myself, so perhaps i need to join in for those sensory plays to get over it myself. 



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Re: Ideas for good imaginative play idea websites?
« Reply #9 on: June 25, 2012, 09:57:30 am »
I dont like mess myself, so perhaps i need to join in for those sensory plays to get over it myself.

LOL! Perhaps!! I'm sure you can do plenty of stuff with what you have- so if you don't have heaps of craft supplies, you can just put out some. You might find that if you enjoy that style of play option that you can build up your supply gradually- rather than going out and stocking up as if you are running a preschool!!

You could probably use some home cooking supplies too...
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« Reply #10 on: June 25, 2012, 14:24:32 pm »
koe - I don't like mess either ;)
I am planning on one invitation to play for H each week so tomorrow he has the play doh one with the sequins. He is outside loads atm but if it was winter here I would try and do one a day.
By doing one a week I can build up materials slowly and then have them for M. I keep it all in an Art box under my stairs as we do not have enough room to have it all out on shelves.




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Re: Ideas for good imaginative play idea websites?
« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2012, 03:19:14 am »
and i would THINK that the 'invitation to play' with a 3 year old might actually last a few days. You'll have to take photos!
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Re: Ideas for good imaginative play idea websites?
« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2012, 03:28:56 am »
Yes, let us know how it goes Becky!

So can I say that this reduced toy thing is already a HUGE success - F has been completely engrossed in her playmat for a good half hour at a time on three occasions now, I couldn't even get her to come and have afternoon tea yesterday which is almost unheard of for her. And clean up yesterday evening took less than a minute ;D

Another great imaginative play initiative here this morning was giving her her car seat to play with - I had taken all the covers off to wash, so the bare seat was just sitting in the living room. And she sat in it, or sat her toys in it, tried to put the seatbelt on and "drove" all sorts of places - to the park, she said, then to the pool...and when she "arrived" we would pretend to be playing at those places. Lots of fun!
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« Reply #13 on: June 26, 2012, 08:25:22 am »
koe - I don't like mess either ;)
I am planning on one invitation to play for H each week so tomorrow he has the play doh one with the sequins. He is outside loads atm but if it was winter here I would try and do one a day.
By doing one a week I can build up materials slowly and then have them for M. I keep it all in an Art box under my stairs as we do not have enough room to have it all out on shelves.

such good ideas!  I always want to have everything ready at one go and it gets too much! 

I dont like to get my fingers dirty also.  And i think DS got that now :( needs to be wiped even when there's just a tiny bit of sauce on his finger while eating.  I am not sure if i am up for spaghetti with dye and oil.. *shivers*.  I might try and explore jello one!  :D



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Re: Ideas for good imaginative play idea websites?
« Reply #14 on: June 26, 2012, 08:39:00 am »
Except i figure i should probably wait till hamish is walking- and not eating all the fun 'imaginitive play' stuff...
Hey, this looks lieka  great thread but I only have a minute so haven't read right through yet.
Just wanted to say quickly that (without actually looking at the invitations to play) you don't have to wait.
I often set things up for DS that are very safe, non edible etc.  For example just getting his toy animals out and positioning them all standing up in a different part of the room where he is not expecting them to be so when we get up in the morning he can 'discover' them.
Same with his garage and cars.
Also sometimes I just leave a box (something recycled) in the middle of the room with one of his regular toys inside, an animal, a car, or a soft toy or puppet that he 'never' plays with.  He will notice the new box straight away and begin to explore and then the puppet is discovered and instead of it being dull it is suddenly really funny and interesting and he will spend ages putting it in and out of the box, closing the box, opening etc.
Or just moving two dining chairs together and throwing a blanket over them to create a tunnel.  This either on its own for him to just crawl through or leave it with a few cars or a ball to roll through the tunnel.  He is amazed just by things being in a different place.
It works because all his toys are put away every day so the day is always starting fresh and tidy and anything out of place is very obvious.  And all these things are safe, we already have them and it takes about 2 mins of time just before I go to bed at night (I don't don't his every night or he would end up expecting it and it wouldn't be quite so inviting iyswim).

I'll be back to read the rest of your ideas.


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« Reply #15 on: June 26, 2012, 13:10:56 pm »
That invitation to play idea is great.

L is really into 'sticking' at the moment.  She'll stick on anything - old cereal box, toilet roll, anything, you name it.  And I just cut up pics from junk mail/magazines/catalogues/greeting cards for her to stick.  She LOVES it.  And it's completely different each time cos she has different things to stick, and a different thing to stick on to.  The only thing I had to buy for this was a pritt stick.
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« Reply #16 on: June 26, 2012, 17:46:51 pm »
well total disaster with H...ha I should have known ;)
was kind of interested for about 5 mins tops, I then tried to join in but no, he is such a hard one to entertain.
Ah well, maybe M will be more into it in the future. x




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« Reply #17 on: June 26, 2012, 19:58:25 pm »
I really liked the philosophy on the above websites about the toys she calls 'SCLANS' toys focussing on shapes, colours, letters and numbers- I HATE these for babies!! being exposed to text is one thing- but they really don't need the alphabet for AGES!!
Each to their own, I have to disagree.  These type of toys have been DS's favourite things.
His shape sorter, fine motor skills, each shape had a different colour and he had a certain order he would put them in the sorter too.  Funnily enough purple was always first and he can now say purple very clearly.  I'm not saying he learned the word from that shape sorter but somewhere along the line purple (and pink) have been a big hit with him.
One of his fav fav things ever is flash cards.  We don't have any which are just words and I don't sit infront of him firing words like 'mozart' at him whilst he gazes on dumbfounded.  All his flash cards had words an pictures, so almost like a book but every page being separate.  He utterly loves them and will ask for them to be brought out over and over and over.  Some are thin card, some thick, some paper.  Some sets have a ring loop through one corner (which my mum did) to keep them together so they can be flipped over, some sets are loose and he takes each one and tosses them to the ground after you say the word.  His choice.  Again it develops fine motor skill and isn't totally focused on learning the words.  A lot of it is enjoyment of looking at the pictures and asking what they are.
Another of his fav fav things ever is books, from when he was a tiny baby.  If I hadn't given him so many books I swear he would have thought he was deprived.
He had large plastic letters from about 6 months (or younger perhaps but I can only remember them once he was sitting up) which he would insist you told him what the letters were, although mostly he used them to fill and dump and one in particular he used as a teether when he was cutting teeth.  At around 9 or 10 months he could pick out the letter which is his name initial and would collect all of them and repeat the name of the latter over and over.  He just has so much fun with them.
Foam letters that stick to the side of the bath I got when he was 12 months.  I only put in the letters of his name, later on I added numbers 1 - 5, later 6 - 10 and a couple more letters to make a new word.  He can identify them all now and loves to.  it isn't about trying to make him clever or advanced or anything (I certainly don't think he is advanced or gifted, just a regular kid and that's fine with me), it's purely for fun.
Magentic letters and number on our fridge I've kept really high up out of his reach for fear of one of the magnets falling out and him choking on it...but recently he is demanding to play with them.  I just give him a limited number and only when I am around as I still worry about the magnets!  But he gets SUCH a thrill from knowing the letters, and numbers and positioning them in different ways on the fridge too.  Obviously learning about magnetic attraction at the same time, but it's the numbers and letters that attract him.
TBH I don't know how he would manage to fill his day if he didn't have these books, letters, numbers, colours, flash cards etc  although I really am against forcing education onto LOs, I believe play and natural learning through play are the way to go.

So...anyway...
I've rotated for a long while but rotate a lot less these days.  Recently I've found less need to rotate although I do still do it with certain things.
I used to rotate the shape sorter, and two other fine motor activity toys but eventually when they came out he would be joyous for about 30 seconds then bored, so those toys have been passed on to another family.
I also used to rotate the soft toys but eventually he didn't bat an eye at seeing one he hadn't seen in a while so I just reduced them down and leave them in his play pen (prob more to make it look cosy rather than actual play things!).
He has two ride-ons and they get rotated.
I rotate the books and toys by his potties every 2-4  days depending how much attention he is giving them.
The rest of his books I've always rotated.  Other wise he gets overwhelmed and just tosses them all out of the book box onto the floor wanting to read all of them but never choosing.  I rotate based on which ones he hasn't read in a while and move them to storage and pick out some replacements that he hasn't see for a while.  He also always has a couple of new ones on the go as it takes him a while to become familiar with them and able to read the whole way through.  Just recently I've started to put a book in his cot after he is asleep at BT so he has something to read when he wakes in the morning.  I change this daily.
BUT like I say there is less rotation now than there used to be.  I never take his basket of musical instruments away, he plays with it daily and I'd miss it if it wasn't here.

I don't keep art materials out for him to access the way she does on that site, but her children are much older.  I have a walk in store in the living room where I keep the arts and crafts things, home made play doh (which he isn't interested in), paints, pens, crayons, printing blocks and ink pads etc, stickers, coloured paper and card.  Initially I introduced them as an activity, just 5 or 10 mins max, one colouring item and one piece of paper, but now he wants to choose which sort of arts to do.  I have to show him each of the containers to see which he rejects and which he accepts and the one he chooses he takes to the table.
I have a set of those blank cards (pre-folded) with envelopes (from craft shops for home made cards) and some other coloured card which folds in half nicely to make A6 size cards and I often get one or two out to use for his arts activity.  LOs will paint and draw on any old paper cheap, newsprint, sugar paper whatever, but I really like to have some 'nice' quality paper and card for his creations.  He gets free reign as to what goes on the card etc and I store them in a file box ready to send out to friends and relations for birthdays, get wells, happy new homes etc.

So, here is a site I came across today.  It's actually been put together for sensory processing disorder, but it has some great activity ideas, they are not all imaginative play ideas, but still good to refer to when trying to entertain LO.
http://www.sensory-processing-disorder.com/gross-motor-activities-for-toddlers.html

This one is lovely for imaginative play although DS isn't ready for this kind of level of yet, I kep it bookmarked for future ref.
http://mysmallpotatoes.com/2011/11/17/building-a-world-in-a-box/

And this one...well I wish she had been my mum, her activities just look so inviting
https://happyhooligans.wordpress.com/



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« Reply #18 on: June 27, 2012, 07:19:11 am »
I agree with creations that if LO enjoys it then I can't see any problem/harm in letting them play with (potentially) more 'educational' toys that are poss more aimed at older LOs. They just find a new/different way to play with it that is appropriate to their age/abilities.

Eg L loves puzzles. For her 1st birthday she got given one with all the letters of the alphabet. I kept it away for a while cos I thought it was too tricky at 1 (and she had plenty of other new things to amuse her) but now she loves it - it's one of her favourite puzzles. She likes giving people their letter eg she gives me M for mummy, Grandma gets G. daddy gets D, and she gets L. She also knows a fair few other letters now, and says one or two words that start with that letter, and recognises them when she sees them in other places too. However, we haven't forced/actively tried to 'teach' her this at all. I know this cos I remember how amazed I was the first time she started telling me what some of the letters were and what they stood for. I had never tried to teach her this. But she's asks for it and finds it fun :)
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« Reply #19 on: June 27, 2012, 08:18:21 am »
Yes, I agree it's all about how you use them. F has books about shapes and colours and knows all of them. Her first (and definite favourite) colour was purple too Creations! Pink is a close second, and the colour of the week this week is blue - she's pointing it out everywhere.  At lunch today she pointed out that her cucumber pieces were circles, then bit a piece out of one to make a moon, and tried to put two together to make a heart! But she wouldn't have thought to do any of that if she didn't have a shape book :) 
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« Reply #20 on: June 27, 2012, 09:02:31 am »
I am really into the toy rotation....I already have toys pretty well organised in baskets etc and I am def a minimalist but we do have too much to hand I think, particularly for M. I am going to organise it all this weekend and start rotating. It is harder with 2 as you need things for both of them but I will just have to do some clever thinking. I notice that M rarely settles to something and probably because there is too much choice. Yesterday in the garden she spent ages with a toilet roll putting stones into the middle of it.




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Re: Ideas for good imaginative play idea websites?
« Reply #21 on: June 27, 2012, 09:08:01 am »
They just find a new/different way to play with it that is appropriate to their age/abilities.
For sure.  DS's foam letters in the bath are as much about seeing how they float, how he can stuff them under his willy (boys hey!) to stop them floating, how they stick to the bath, and his tummy...and trying to reach for them when I stick them on his back out of reach (naughty mummy teasing him!).  But they are far more interesting to have the variety of shapes and colours rather than 'just' pieces of foam.

On the other hand, DS has a bus, one of those all singing all dancing things with all the letters of the alphabet which can be pressed, and number 1 - 10.  It has different settings, phonics which speaks the letters out, a quiz to find letters, numbers and shapes etc.  I wouldn't have it if it ONLY did this but one of the settings is music and just plays a different nursery rhyme tune for each letter so it has nothing to do with letters and numbers.  He's had it for over a year and we don't focus on the numbers and letters at all, but he LOVES pressing them to make music and have a dance.

Pink is a close second, and the colour of the week this week is blue
I often think pink is DS's fav colour, although he has learned to say purple first, not sure if it is a colour pref or easier to say (he also says bubbles which is very similar mouth shapes).  He says blue and has a similar shapes book and can identify the shapes but is no where near as far along as F.  I think F is quite advanced isn't she?  DP and I wink at each other and say 'yes very advanced' when DS is whizzing around in circles on the slippery wooden floor, or banging his head against the door :)

toys that are poss more aimed at older LOs.
I find toys are aged very oddly.  All of DS's board books say age 3 and he's had them since he was born.  I check out toys and books myself to decide if they are suitable rather than go by ages.  Everything he's ever played with are supposed to be for much older kids but like you say there are other ways to play with them.


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Re: Ideas for good imaginative play idea websites?
« Reply #22 on: June 27, 2012, 11:09:35 am »
yeah- some of the ages are based more on if they'll eat the pieces rather than if they can do the activities...

With the rotation- should i keep the duplo out all the time?
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Re: Ideas for good imaginative play idea websites?
« Reply #23 on: June 27, 2012, 11:10:41 am »
I know.. that's really specific... ::)

Perhaps i can list all of my toys and you can tell me how i should group them! ::)

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« Reply #24 on: June 27, 2012, 11:16:02 am »
I agree that sometimes the age indicator is more liabilities/disclaimer for the manufacturer!  DS still likes some of his baby books as he can understand so much more from them and soon he will be able to read them himself. 

Some of his favourite toys are still baby toys.  It is incredible how indestructible these baby toys are!  DS never likes shapes sorter.  He used to loathe puzzles but now he loves them.  They really change so much so fast!  He did say very clearly that he didn't want a doll, though.  When he plays parents and baby, he is the daddy and his best gf is always the baby because she wants to be the baby :)   



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Re: Ideas for good imaginative play idea websites?
« Reply #25 on: June 27, 2012, 11:22:02 am »
I notice that M rarely settles to something and probably because there is too much choice.
That's when I started rotating.  DS would pull everything out and play with nothing, way way too much stuff around him.  he does so much better with a limit (although it's still a lot tbh).

With the rotation- should i keep the duplo out all the time?
I started out rotating the mega blox (which we got at 11/12 months) but now I leave a pretty decent amount out.  I do it in two separate boxes.  One smaller basket which has a smallish number of blocks and interesting shapes (windows, flag poles and people) which is played with every day and a much larger box (which is a lidded seat box) with lots in, this one he sometimes opens up and plays with and sometimes not.  Sometimes it's me that gets this out to build a garage, train tunnel or farm yard to use as an invitation to play and set it up with animals/cars etc.  I have a massive bag full that is permanently away until he is older as we have so much of it.

We also have (much to my disappointment at the time) a box of duplo.  My mum decided to completely ignore our choice of mega blox over duplo and went ahead and got some.  I can't bare stuff that won't build on other stuff, it is frustrating enough for DS when things will fit but he just isn't doing it right never mind the added frustration of stuff that just doesn't work together!  Anyhow, I did find a use for the duplo, it gets rotated as a potty toy so stays separate from the mega blox.
I find duplo a bit 'hard' for a little one but it's personal choice.  I'm sure we will move to it eventually.

Don't know if that helps though Katy.


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Re: Ideas for good imaginative play idea websites?
« Reply #26 on: June 27, 2012, 11:30:25 am »
yeah that's great! Hamish doesn't mind the duplo- he just takes it apart mainly (much to DH's frustration 'He keeps ruining my creations!! ::) ) but has started putting it together. DH is a MAD KEEN lego man, so we've gone the duplo line. You would want all the same thing though- so if you had mega blocks- you would want more mega blocks!!

Hamish has stopped playing with a lot of his toys which is why i'm going to rotate (i've worked every day since i started this thread- so no amazing rotating system has been developed!) - already by putting them away and thinning them out he's sort of now able to 'see' his toys better...
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Re: Ideas for good imaginative play idea websites?
« Reply #27 on: June 27, 2012, 11:59:16 am »
Katy, I don't think you need an amazing system, some times the planning of such things is enough to put us (I mean me) off.  Once the excess toys are out of the way you can just rotate based on what you see he has stopped playing with.  So for us if he stops playing with the musical pull along duck I swap it for the musical bus.  This would usually instigate other bits being rotated too but personally I don't think it needs to be the whole lot or in any particularly well planned way.
Our stored toys need tidying up.  I have them in a mixture of toy baskets and a big box (which his armchair came in - really handy box!) but really need to get some book shelves and other storage going to tidy it all up.  Toys have taken over the guest room even with thinning them down to what is totally necessary to keep.  Mind you he has a doll house and some other stuff up there that he has never yet seen as I don't think he is ready for them.  The toy boxes in our living room and kitchen (where he plays) are really neat and easy to keep track of, but the stored toys are a nightmare atm.


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« Reply #28 on: June 27, 2012, 12:09:59 pm »
oh- and i HATE dolls (in that I- the person/child hates dolls- it's not a principle, it's a preference) and thought that the humanoid toys hamish had were enough to fit the bill- ernie and grover and such... Until hamish saw his cousin's many baby dolls in their little baby doll bed- Oh he thought they were GREAT!! 'Baby! Baby!' He kept saying- and was trying to touch their faces!! ::) So it looks like i may have to eventually buy him a doll...

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« Reply #29 on: June 27, 2012, 14:06:03 pm »
I have a question ladies.....so obviously I have 2 kids and I want to do the toy rotation but it is harder with 2 for obvious reasons. Do I just do M's and then let H have access to what he wants??? Or do I do both and make sure I rotate every week because for sure H will want the one machine I have put away...if I just do hers then there is still a lot of stuff that she will play with which is pretty inappropriate age wise. I do put some of his stuff on the higher shelves but still??? How would you organise it?




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« Reply #30 on: June 27, 2012, 22:37:47 pm »
hmm- interesting thoughts- In that ont of the main reasons that i am looking to rotate is so that hamish has new things, and doesn't get overwelmed with too many things.. but that is a challenge with 2 'lots' of toys... I guess though if H's toys are always there she'll get bored of them?
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« Reply #31 on: June 28, 2012, 06:21:17 am »
I wrote a huge reply on this last night and lost it all before I could post  >:(  But basically...

I think I would try to rotate both Becky, but don't really have any bright ideas about how to go about it, except different shelves as you say. Do they tend to share the same play space? Can H have a few things that are only brought out when M is napping?

I was also wondering what to do if LO asks for something that is not is rotation. Do you bring it out, or say it's not available for play today? And if you do bring it out, is it just for that hour or so and then it goes away, or do you leave it out and maybe put something else away? I don't want to deny F things that she is genuinely going to play with and enjoy, but neither do I want to fall into the trap of bringing things into circulation again one by one until everything's there and it defeats the whole idea... I can see this happening especially with books, as F is used to requesting the one she wants without necessarily seeing it. So if she asks for one, she'll be confused if it's not there. I did put away all but 12 of our books yesterday as an experiment, but I'm not sure if I'll keep it up. I already caved yesterday and gave her the book she asked for at naptime, which happened to be one I'd put away, as she was pretty OT and scratchy already and I really didn't want a meltdown :P  I'll try to stick with it for a few days and see how it goes.

I did a sort of invitation to play for F yesterday - I set up a muffin tin with a small object in each hole, each covered by a piece of masking tape. A couple of the items fit together, some were texture things, and two were snacks (a rambutan and an oatie flapjack). I just left it on F's play table after her nap. She ignored it for a while, then got interested...and once she figured out there were things "hiding", she was super keen. She was so delighted at the rambutan and came running over to show me where she found it! And to get me to peel it ;) It occupied her for about 20 mins or so, which is 10 mins longer than it took me to set up so I was pretty happy with that.

I liked those websites too, Creations. I found it interesting that some of the activities for gross motor skills are just what going for a walk here is like - there isn't really an option of walking on smooth ground, and obstacles are a given etc. I imagine it's similar for children who live in a rural setting.

Oh, and I don't know if F is advanced - we wonder, but don't have anything to compare her to, yk? She's certainly a great communicator for her age and seems to remember things very well, but I'm sure there are other areas where other kids are ahead of her. I'm always impressed with how well your LO seems to do independent play, and his table skills, for example. And F also bangs her head against the wall ;)
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Re: Ideas for good imaginative play idea websites?
« Reply #32 on: June 28, 2012, 10:59:55 am »
I would THINK that part of the reason you are rotating is not to overwhelm them, and so that they play 'well' with their toys. So currently hamish doesn't really play with some toys as he's possibly bored.. he just doesn't see them. SO- if he was to ASK for something.. then i would think that was ok- as he'd then be interested in it... and play with it. Does that make sense? It seems odd to say 'you can't play with that today'... Perhaps if you are finding you have a bunch of toys out and she's asking for something else that the mix of toys you have out isn't right? IYKWIM? OR that the item she is asking for is a real favourite. I think one of the above websites talks about not including FAVOURITES in the rotated toys... keeping them out to play with.

And F also bangs her head against the wall

LOL!!

And i've just started reading the BW for toddler book- and i;m in the middle of the chapter talking about not comparing children, or forcing them to do things before they are ready ::) It's like she has a camera into my house ::)
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Re: Ideas for good imaginative play idea websites?
« Reply #33 on: June 28, 2012, 19:55:13 pm »
Can H have a few things that are only brought out when M is napping?
I think this is a lovely idea for an older child and makes the toy seem special and 'theirs'.  When there is more than one child although they have their own toys they are also expected to share everything (or a lot) , the older child in particular probably hears so often that they need to be nice to the younger and share all their toys etc (I don't mean this offensively Becky, I have no idea what you say to your children, I'm just going on observation of other families that this seems quite normal).
It reminds me of Tracy's suggestions for play dates or parent run play groups.  The toys which are left out for play must be shared with the visiting child, therefore any toys the 'at home' child is not willing to share or would not like someone else touching etc must be discussed with the child who owns the toys and those items put away safely.  It gives them a sense of importance as a person and respects their feelings, rather than just saying 'well you have to share with your play date'.

I was also wondering what to do if LO asks for something that is not is rotation.
I would give it.  I believe in child-centred learning and therefore they get to choose what they play with.  Like Katy says removing some toys is about keeping things interesting and fresh and reducing that overwhelming feeling by having too much stuff.  If they were denied a toy that they requested simply because it isn't on rotation this is like punishment, the toys are being confiscated, they are just being put away.  So, if they can ask for it I think they should get it.
Times when I would break from this 'rule' are things like an electronic game or computer game if I have set a max amount of play time on it per day/week (we don't have such things yet), and arts and crafts activities, cooking, messy play if there is a reasonable reason that now would not be a good time to do those things, ie if you have a play group to attend and have to leave the house in 15 mins then getting covered in water/sand/paint etc isn't a a good idea.  Equally preparing something for baking and not having time to bake it etc.

If F is good with books then I'd leave them all out, if you don't want to then I'd certainly let her have what she requested to read.  DS still gets overwhelmed by too many books, we currently have 20 out in the living room (plus 2 magazines), another 4 in the bathroom and 1 or 2 per night into his cot plus about 5 sets of flash cards which are kind of like having books.  It's still quite a lot of books but if I got ALL the books out he would be lost.  This way he has a wide choice and it works for us atm.

Nuala, I LOVE your invitation to play.  I want to make one right now for DS!

I had a invitation to poop backfire on me today.  Put a duplo train by the bathroom potty and DS was SO taken with it he refused to get off the potty.  Then when I did manage to separate him from the train he waved bye bye (I said he could play with it next time he needed the toilet) and we went downstairs, only a short while later he was begging for the toilet like he was about to burst...and just wanted that damn train.  I let him take it downstairs, I now have the nightmare I never wanted which is a duplo mega-blox mix aaarrrgghhh!!

I found it interesting that some of the activities for gross motor skills are just what going for a walk here is like - there isn't really an option of walking on smooth ground, and obstacles are a given etc.
My mum is always looking for the easiest ground for him to walk on where as I tend to put things in the way :)
I built a wall of mega blox yesterday right across the living room so he had to step over it every time.  I might see how high it has to get before he pulls it apart rather than stepping over (am I cruel? :) )

I used a baking tray on top of a cushion yesterday to create a kind of balance board. DS loved it.  he is currently into making this kind of 'woah woah' sounds as he PRETENDS to lose his balance, and he leans side to side whilst doing it so I thought he would like a balance game.  He also stands on his scramble bug, the other day he let go both hands and stood straight up. I pasted a grin on my face saying 'ooh that's good balance wow'  whilst making a mental check of all the objects surrounding him and exactly how much damage they would do to him should he fall and land on them.  He's been balancing on my knees too, although 99.9% of the time he holds hands.  My mum would FREAK if she knew.


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Re: Ideas for good imaginative play idea websites?
« Reply #34 on: June 28, 2012, 21:00:20 pm »
I now have the nightmare I never wanted which is a duplo mega-blox mix aaarrrgghhh!!

LOL!!!! Drama much creations!? Drama much?! This may count as what they call a 'first world problem' :D (wow... this is the second post i'm having a giggle at you!! Sorry! Your house just sounds like fun and games at the moment!!)

Great thoughts on the toy rotation stuff...

Oh- and you are soo not cruel setting up a larger and larger obstacle... that's great for hig gross motor!! As well as planning, problem solving- and lets face it- a great comedy opportunity for you and you DP! (that's why we have kids in the first place after all!) You might do better than us- but there aren't HEAPs of outdoor GM activities for us at the moment with the weather- so any incidental things you can set up inside is probably good! ANd how funny are mums!! I had to think of the english ladies= my mum won't even let him play in the non heated room of her house during the day as she thinks it's too cold- let alone OUTSIDE!!! I told her that people play in the snow- she was in disbelief!
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« Reply #35 on: June 28, 2012, 21:23:36 pm »
I told her that people play in the snow- she was in disbelief!
Hilarious!

This may count as what they call a 'first world problem'
I call it a 'my mother doesn't listen' problem.


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« Reply #36 on: June 28, 2012, 21:33:03 pm »
Ooooo - I have been following a lot of these bloggers as well - and we have been having some fun  :).

Nurturestore is another great blog. I know tons more as well - can try and link some more tomorrow.

Becky - I think perhaps are older kids are a bit 'past' some of the invitation to play ideas. I did one with spoons and sea creatures and water beads and mini buckets. J played for 10 mins then went back to his Lego. Megan played for AGES  :).

Playdough is something I can easily adapt for both - we do small world type 'scenes' with J - and Megan does her own thing with it  ;). Cupcakes, playdough and sparkly candles keep her quiet for ages as well  :).

I have also been doing some of the more science type things with J lately and he is far more interested in that. We melted coloured ice cubes in the bath yesterday and he enjoyed that a lot. He loves running about and collecting things on nature walks. But a sensory play type bucket - nope. I actually used to do quite a lot of messy play with him last year (didn't know what it was called then though  ;)). Loads of tractors in the mud in the garden, and a bowl of lentils with his trucks etc in, and this year he really isn't anywhere near as into it. So I guess his age and stage is just moving on a bit  :-\.

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« Reply #37 on: June 28, 2012, 21:40:29 pm »
but there aren't HEAPs of outdoor GM activities for us at the moment with the weather
We play a lot of 'chase' here.  He negotiates the bar across the bottom of the kitchen gate on every run through and then sometimes I put a big bean bag in the middle of the floor which he throws himself onto - or I throw him onto :)
Just to mix it up a bit I chase him with the floor sweeper (today added a face onto it with stickers so I'll know the problem if he wakes with nightmares!) and then he jumps on and I take him for a ride on it.  I see it as wind surfing practice :)
We also do quite a few laundry basket rides too, I tell him to 'hold on tightly' and he better had because I go like the clappers lol
Wrestling is another of our favs.  yeah we spend a lot of time indoors through rainy days.  Such a relief that we have toddler groups to go to or we'd be trapped in house a LOT.

I have no idea why people want new borns to stay small - toddlers are THE best.


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« Reply #38 on: June 29, 2012, 02:53:20 am »
Yes, I agree that it is a bit like confiscation if she doesn't get what she wants...think I'll bring it out within reason. But maybe take it as a sign that I should take away some other things, if they're not holding her attention. I do limit DVDs - we only have three Little Einstein ones but she went through a phase last week of asking for them all.the.time (think after she was sick, when I did let her watch quite a bit) so they "went on holiday" for a week and now we're back to a max of one per day. There's plenty of other fun stuff we can do!!! I mainly say no to messy stuff when I can't give it the level of supervision it needs, eg when preparing dinner.

Yesterday we did coloured salt on a tray (blue this week of course ;)), with a small container, a small bottle and a plastic spoon. Good fun, again for about 20 mins, but required more active supervision from me to make sure the salt wasn't transferred too far and wide!

I loled at the 'invitation to poop'. And the wall (great idea though)! And the megablox-duplo mix fiasco. AND the balancing games that would horrify your mother! ;D ;D

Oh bother. Was just about to take F out for a run and kick-around of a ball and it's started hosing down. Hope it's short-lived. By happy coincidence, one of the very few clean open spaces around here that are good for playing is right outside my favourite café ;)  Ah well, might be indoor chase and laundry basket rides here today too. I dream of toddler groups!
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« Reply #39 on: June 29, 2012, 05:49:00 am »
I have no idea why people want new borns to stay small - toddlers are THE best.

I often say this- they are of course really sweet when they are new borns- but so are kittens... i'm always amazed at the problem solving/cognition!! I find too that in my work i see the reality of children who have stayed cognitively as newborns- and it isn;t really what you want.. :'(


And the megablox-duplo mix fiasco

LOL!! This makes it sound even WORSE!!!
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