Anyone want to talk about the 3-2 Nap transition? Part 2

[theu.s.lees]

Yes, the 5 min naps are tricky. Maybe give her an extra 15 min or so if she doesn't seem tired after her regular A time.

Hopefully she will just tack on and not get up at 5:30 since she will be so tired from today. But if not, I would probably do the same thing you're doing, feed and put her back down to sleep. Does she take a long time to resettle at that time or does she seem ready to get up? It could be messing her up, if she is ready to get up. What time does she go to bed usually?

1.5 hr nap so far. I guess she was tired. So glad she didn't short nap so early in the day. Fingers crossed for the rest of day.

[Eva's Mummy]

Wee soul woke after 30 mins crying (OT i guess).

Her usual BT is between 6:30 & 6:45

When she wakes at 5:50 I go and she is all big smiles and kinda jumps when she see's me, usually after she is fed i go back to my room about 6am and i hear her mumble for 15 mins or so then she is back to sleep sometimes until 7:30

Occassionally she only goes back to sleep for 30-35mins! 

Well done you on your big nap, send some my way please 

[Eva's Mummy]

Well what a terrible night she woke every 30 mins from 6pm to 10pm then slept till 4:40 woke for 45 mins then back to sleep then up at 6:20

I have no idea when to put her down for her first nap, we usually do 3hrs 15 or 20mins A time?

I can't get her to take meds anymore she keeps spitting it out which doesn't help x

[K-JDA]

Hi

Further to your helpful advice the other day I am on with extending A times now from 2.5 to nearer 3 hrs. Yesterday we had an EW of 4.30 where he was hungry so I fed and managed to resettle til 6.30 so we had a reasonable day length to work with and used a short 15 min cat nap to get us through the day. This morning we had a 5am wake-up and it was proving impossible to resttle so I admit we ended up in our bed til 6.30. This is the 1st time I have sucummed to taking DS into bed with me but most days I am finding it impossible to resttle without picking up and essentially sitting in the dark with him in my arms until 6am when I will then start the day. This then makes a 13 hr day which is long to move to 2 naps.

My question therefore is what am I best to do about trying to get DS resettled if he won't return to sleep without substantial help from me? Am I turning the EWs into a habit or is it purely related to the 3-2 transition? They having been going on for 4 weeks now and it is feeling like a lifetime!

[K-JDA]

Sorry - pressed post to soon!

My other thought is should I be having a strict start time to the day and sticking to it or just going with whenever I can get DS to sleep til?

[jcsmom]

We are stuck with A times of 2.5. I am afraid to push too hard as we are getting EWs at 4:30/5 am but back to sleep for another hour or so. So by first nap I think she may be OT. She was STTN for a short while. Now I think she is OT from a long day with short naps and lots of A time. I can't seem to get a long morning nap most are 30 mins or weird lengths like 27, 32, 35, 33 etc. Our PM nap is still only 1.15 so I have to do a catnap and and EBT (well not too early as her night is 12 hours max she won't do more). She gets OT at bedtime from short term UT from the catnap.  She'll be 7 months on the 21st. What A's is everyone doing?

[Eva's Mummy]

At 7 months we were at 3hrs 15mins

I always found (or more eventually found) the weird naps, 37 mins etc were UT,

[jcsmom]

I just don't know anymore about nap lengths. She is so confusing. Everyone says 1.25 is UT but for her she can sleep 33 mins for her AM nap then be up 3 hours then sleep 1.25 so I doubt she is UT, you know? The best AM nap we've had in weeks has been after 2.75 A and it was 1 hour 20. I never know if I should count her A from out of crib time or wake up time because I wonder if she is actually sleeping as long at night as I think she is. I hear her and go from that time but often wonder if she is awake before I hear her so she is OT by first nap. I wish I had an alarm or something! My DS would cry the second his eyes were open but she just plays, tries to go back to sleep. Like today, she was awake at 6:20 or so and I watched her on the monitor. She would try to get comfy and close her eyes then be quiet for 5 mins then roll around again. Sleep or awake?

I just wish I could figure her out. We have done 2 naps twice and once she STTN the next time she was up allllll night from OT. But we are getting EWs now and fighting at bedtime. She will also only do 11.75-12 hours so EBT just results in EWU the next day.

[ZacsMumme]

With my first LO at 7 months we were doing 3hrs15 too

[Eva's Mummy]

Sara what A time was Zac doing at 8 months?

[ZacsMumme]

3hrs20/30 but he was almost on 1 nap at 10 mths. Solidly on 1 at 11 mths

[Eva's Mummy]

I think i'm gonna need to push to 3hrs 30 as she is waking really eary and getting difficult to nap, especially the PM nap and BT.

What do you think, she will be 8 months next week?

[ZacsMumme]

What's your day looking like hon? - we had EW at this age be side the am nap needed to be later. I think Z was doing a shorter then longer nap too ie 1hr15 and 1.5-2

[Eva's Mummy]

This is an average day:

W 6:00
E  7:00 Bottle (6oz)
E  8:00 Breakfast
S  9:15/20 - 10:25/30
E  11:00 Bottle (3/4oz)
E  12:00 Lunch
S  13:40/45 - 14:50/15:00 (sometimes she does a 40min nap here so BT is 18:00)
E  15:00 Bottle (3/4oz)
E  16:30 Dinner
BT 18:30 Bottle (7oz) and bed.

But recently she has been waking at 4:40 & 5:40 so i try to feed and put her back to sleep, it works sometimes not always.


   

[theu.s.lees]

EM - Sorry I don't think I can be any help. We are still trying to get to 3 hr A time on a regular basis.

jcsmom - The first A time can be tricky, especially if they get up before you do, so if she's quiet she could be up longer. But its possible that she needs a longer A time in general. I believe that 1.25 is okay for a nap. However, it can make not having a CN tricky if she can't do a full A time after that nap. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but if she's EW it could be that she's UT not OT. I think that OT would be NW early in the night. Is she up for the day at 4:30/5 or just wanting to nurse? S is 7 months as of last Saturday and she's at 2.45 A times. Though we are teething too, so sometimes she only makes it 2.5 hrs, and other times I can get her to 3 hrs. I'm trying to get to 3 hours.