15 mo, never sttn *update-she did it!!*

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Yes, that's what I am starting to wonder.  Also, she has had her ear drops for two days (max time I can give them to her), and she is *no* different.  But I have got a blocked ear too and so I have used her drops (to see how effective they were  ) and they have made no difference to my ears at all !  Am going to dose her up on pain meds the next couple of days and get an appointment on Monday.  Thanks for the hand holding 

[babybarr]

I used drops for blocked ears and they were *rubbish*  Olive oil much better for at least a week.

[Buntybear]

Hi, have you considered it could be food related? Olly didn't sleep thorough until all his food issues were sorted and if you say she has never slept through I don't think it can be teeth or even routine.

Does she have wind etc st these NWs? How does she settle in the end?

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Hi, have you considered it could be food related? Olly didn't sleep thorough until all his food issues were sorted and if you say she has never slept through I don't think it can be teeth or even routine.

Does she have wind etc st these NWs? How does she settle in the end?

She was 'sleeping through-ish' for the last couple of months except for one night feed - so no discomfort or anything like the horrendous nights where she would be up every half hour in pain.  But saying that the last few weeks she has had a LOT of mucous in her poos - much more than normal - and we cannot put our finger on why.  But she is fine when she is pooing, no crying or anything, and happy during the day  .  She was doing up to 4 poos in an hour last week, some of which were just nappies full of mucous  .  The doctor just put it down to diarrhea  .  But nothing has really changed in my diet or hers so I can't work it out - AGH! 

[Buntybear]

Ok, I read the title as never having STTN. It could well be tummy related if she has mucous tho. Olly was fine in the day too. The pain started 2 hours after he went to sleep. Not sure what it coud be though if nothing has changed in your diets

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Ok, I read the title as never having STTN.

Well, she hasn't ever slept through at all  - but just was trying to differentiate between how things were a few weeks ago to how much worse they are now  ! 

It could well be tummy related if she has mucous tho. Olly was fine in the day too. The pain started 2 hours after he went to sleep. Not sure what it coud be though if nothing has changed in your diets

The thing is she often does have mucous, but just not this much.  The only change that occurred was a couple of weeks ago we introduced some aptimil pepti (for mspi/milk allergy lo's), but I have not given her any for the last week as I wanted to rule out that it was that bothering her.  She had a nappy full of mucous today so I'm guessing it can't be that  . 

[Buntybear]

It could be the milk if she s particularly sensitive. Has she had any eczema with it? Not sure it would explain the head banging tho, that really does sound like pain 

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No eczema, just really foul smelling wind  . 

Yes, I agree - I don't think that it is this causing the issues at night, just something else that is going on with her  .  I'm going to call the dietitian next week to ask what she thinks about the poo issues (E's been losing weight too so I've been told to keep them up to date with any issues).

[katie80]

Oh Claire, (((hugs))). I really don't have anything else productive to add, I think it sounds like pain too. But, I couldn't read through all of this and not post. It sounds just heartbreaking.

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She has slept for 30 minutes all day, and I am SO angry at her  .  I just feel like my whole life is dominated by her screaming and trying to get her to sleep.  There, I said it.  I am sick of it.  I *know* it's not her fault, but I feel like my empathy reserves are completely depleted after all these months, and I just want someone else to look after her for a while  . 

[C&B&E]

Sorry for my vent!  have calmed down now (helps that she is asleep  ), just not sure what to do when she is averaging 30-55 mins a day and 10 hours at night  .  Today we gave her a morning nap of 30 minutes since she had a short night, and she fought her second nap for 1hr45 mins before we gave up and got her up.  Asleep by 6pm, but that's a long day on hardly any sleep!  Ah well *shrug*

[anna*]

No advice but lots of ((((hugs)))) I know that feeling too well.

[*Becky*]

Hugs claire, we are getting 10 hour nights too atm

I have to say, I think you are amazing as I know you have struggled so much with E's reflux and 15 months of poor sleep is just beyond exhausting.
I wonder if it is teething as that can make reflux symptoms worse can't it and the short nights, nap issues etc do point to that.

XXX

[Buntybear]

Hugs Claire xxx

Have you posted your EASY for the EASY experts to look at?

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Have you posted your EASY for the EASY experts to look at?

I laugh in the face of an EASY routine  !  Goodness knows what I'd post . 

before all this we had an OKish (relatively, it's all relative  ) routine where she would have one or two NW on a good night, wake between 6.30-7.15, and then depending on her night/wu we'd do a one or two nap day.  One nap days she would go down at about 11.30/45 and have 1.5-2 hour and then a 6.30/6.45 pd (and take 2mins-1 hour to settle).  I tried to do one nap days as much as possible as I just do not have the energy to settle her for two naps when she is such a nightmare to get down  . 

On particularly bad nights/EW she'd do a short am nap from 9.50/10ish for about 30 mins.  Then she'd do a 1.5 (or some random time!) nap in the afternoon, with a 6.45/7 bedtime.  Earlier if terrible naps. 

I also have to work round B's preschool run now which makes things more difficult so she sometimes is thrown by that. 

I know what EASY I would like to aim for, but she is always so unpredictable that it never seems to actually happen as with the exact same A times she will just behave totally differently from one day to the next  (and that's when things are going ok!)