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Re: 8 week old NW's
« Reply #75 on: December 06, 2012, 20:16:26 pm »
Poor little chicken's been asleep going on 3 hours now. Gonna have to wake her :(. She prescribed 1ml twice daily. She's 13lbs 6oz. She said it was on the low side of the reco'd dose. She thinks it's in my head due to my anxiety but how can my anxiety really cause such poor sleep? Even my dh was astounded. I hope this works! If not I don't know what else to do. I am so close to giving up bf-ing. How would I go about cutting dairy? I don't eat a lot of dairy or soy. I don't drink milk, just almond milk. I eat a bit of cheese but rarely. Should I try that too? Or is giving up bf-ing my only hope?

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Re: 8 week old NW's
« Reply #76 on: December 06, 2012, 20:54:30 pm »
Here's some information: Does my LO have food intolerances?

Best to ask these questions on this board: Colic, Reflux, & Crying Happy to shift them over for you if you like.

There is a link somewhere about how to go about an elimination diet - I can't find it right now but will ask about it.

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Re: 8 week old NW's
« Reply #77 on: December 07, 2012, 01:14:58 am »
Hey there, just adding on to the wonderful advice the ladies have given you and giving you loads of (((hugs))).

Firstly, the ranitidine dose is indeed low. Most LO's need close to the maximum dose for ranitidine to be effective, as it is very weight sensitive.  See below the link for the recommended dosages.

http://refluxrebels.com/Acid_reflux/Acid_reflux_medication.html

Breast milk is definitely better for baby than formula, even if she's currently reacting to your breastmilk. She's more likely to tolerate your breastmilk on an exclusion diet than to tolerate hypo allergenic formula. If you're willing to go on an elimination diet (ED) I'd give that a try first. But obviously hon it is a personal decision and I really understand how tired you must be.

Here is the link for the ingredients to avoid. You may not eat a lot of dairy, but if you start checking you'll likely see that there is hidden dairy in a lot of foods. So it is best to exclude all dairy (obvious and hidden) for a few weeks to be able to conclude whether it helps or not. To start with, I'd exclude dairy and soy, and do the ranitidine as well and re-assess after 2 weeks.

Ingredients to avoid for food allergies - Milk, Soy, Eggs, Peanuts, Gluten

More (((hugs))) for you sweetie, hope she settles for you soon :-*
« Last Edit: December 07, 2012, 02:55:35 am by *Elise* »
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Re: 8 week old NW's
« Reply #78 on: December 07, 2012, 02:43:12 am »
She thinks it's in my head due to my anxiety but how can my anxiety really cause such poor sleep?

OMG.  I can't believe she told you this.  There is NO way that being anxious could cause sleep problems like you're experiencing.

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Re: 8 week old NW's
« Reply #79 on: December 07, 2012, 02:44:15 am »
Quote from: jcsmom on Today at 15:16:26
She thinks it's in my head due to my anxiety but how can my anxiety really cause such poor sleep?
OMG.  I can't believe she told you this.  There is NO way that being anxious could cause sleep problems like you're experiencing.

yes, this. totally!
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Re: 8 week old NW's
« Reply #80 on: December 07, 2012, 02:51:42 am »
She thinks it's in my head due to my anxiety but how can my anxiety really cause such poor sleep?

OMG.  I can't believe she told you this.  There is NO way that being anxious could cause sleep problems like you're experiencing.
>:( this. I was an anxious mess with Z and he still crashed at night. Yes they do pick up on our stress but not like that. How unhelpful...hugs :-*

Elise has said all I was going to add Hun. The dose is low but not rock bottom so hopefully you see some effect :-\ re ED I'm dairy free ATM, and it's ok...PM me if you want to discuss food alternatives x
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Re: 8 week old NW's
« Reply #81 on: December 07, 2012, 04:53:27 am »
She thinks it's in my head due to my anxiety but how can my anxiety really cause such poor sleep?

OMG.  I can't believe she told you this.  There is NO way that being anxious could cause sleep problems like you're experiencing.
Just jumping on to agree and add some (((hugs)))!! I admit I haven't read all the way through your thread, but that is so not true! If it were, my kids would have never slept! ::)

(((Hugs))) honey, you've got the best of the best supporting you on this thread. I hope you can get some of these things figured out soon.



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Re: 8 week old NW's
« Reply #82 on: December 07, 2012, 19:06:25 pm »
Thanks ladies, I really appreciate your support. I got her meds today and am keeping my fingers crossed. She did not too bad last night 6:15-11:15 then 12:15-4. But then after 4 sleep again was hard to come by and we started our day at 6 am. Yuck. So down for a nap in the swing at 7 and she fussed and carried on until 8:30! Then slept 30 mins. Even my apop doesn't work to get this kid to sleep. So far in the swing she's had 3 30-40 minute naps. Our A time has been down at 1 hour alseep by? Sometimes it's been taking her up to 1.5 A to fall asleep. I don't get her. Her catnap last night was 20 mins. In the swing even! It's craziness. We can't figure out when she's tired because she doesn't yawn. If she does it's not long after waking, like 30-40 mins. We're just going by 1 hour A. So confused.

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Re: 8 week old NW's
« Reply #83 on: December 08, 2012, 13:05:47 pm »
I feel so hopeless. She barely slept yesterday. 20-40 minute naps in the swing all day. Taking forever to fall asleep. Slept from 6:45-12:30. Then 1-3 and I am not kidding was up since then. It's now 8 am and she is still awake in her swing. I am beside myself. We started the meds yesterday. She's not crying when she's awake, just wide awake. Like toothpicks are holding open her eyes.

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Re: 8 week old NW's
« Reply #84 on: December 08, 2012, 13:21:33 pm »
More (((hugs))) for today!
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Re: 8 week old NW's
« Reply #85 on: December 08, 2012, 18:15:40 pm »
Oh honey so many hugs. Well she sleep if you take her into bed with you? X
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Re: 8 week old NW's
« Reply #86 on: December 08, 2012, 18:47:43 pm »
I do bring her in bed at that time. I nurse her and then she's wide awake. She wants to stay on my breast and I can't take it out of her mouth. She's sucking the whole time so she's not sleeping. If I remove my breast she's wide awake. Hours of this. Even if I sit in the rocking chair it's the same thing. So I don't know when she wakes because she's awake the whole time, just suckling like a soother.

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Re: 8 week old NW's
« Reply #87 on: December 08, 2012, 18:56:45 pm »
Will she take a paci? - maybe that will help? X
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Re: 8 week old NW's
« Reply #88 on: December 08, 2012, 20:18:26 pm »
She was and now has decided not to :( it was my saving grace when she woke early from a nap. Now she just spits it out. I have tried all the apop's with her and nothing. I ordered a new sling to see if that will help with the naps. How should I proceed with EASY now she's doing 30-40 min naps? I just put her down sooner and give her 5-6 naps. Is this right or should I make the 6th nap bedtime at 5ish pm since her nights suck so bad anyway? I am so confused.

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Re: 8 week old NW's
« Reply #89 on: December 08, 2012, 20:21:40 pm »
Hugs, we have sucky short naps too and I just offer more like you and try to keep BT the same, but our nights are good. Maybe try really EBT ... It may help

How long is your first A now and how old is she x
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