these naps are just wearing me down

[Truly Blessed]

Back to my original idea of giving a 5 hour A time and hope for a super nap  then she may make it to a decent BT and push the WU a little   

*&^%£^&*())*^%$£"!£$%^&*()(*&^%$£"£$%^&*() an expletive on your behalf! x.

[*Becky*]

who knows vicki....guess it might be worth a try hun. A very OT M in bed for 6.05pm.

[clazzat]

All I can conclude is that x has stolen her sleep - I had to wake him after 2 hours for the second day in a row today! Which I think brings the total number of 2h naps in his life to about 6!

Hope that she gives you a good night and you can try again tomorrow.

[jessmum46]

Just dropping off (((hugs))) *Becky* - we're in a similar short nap EBT ?UT/OT situation here so you have my sympathy

[*Becky*]

I had to wake him after 2 hours for the second day in a row today!

jealous...but pleased for you of course

Thanks Katherine.....it is never ending!!

[*Becky*]

just out of interest Clare - had you changed anything? Was his A time massively different or anything?

[jennfl]

Becky we are experiencing the same exact routine here.  Long nights off and on, anywhere from 11hrs-12.5hrs, and then short naps.  One hour nap yesterday after an 11 hr 15 min night, and then a one hour five minute nap today after a 12 hour night!  Sammysmammy is helping me too, but I can't figure out what to try and be consistent with.  A times or set times for nap and BT.  He's been sick for three days so we acutally had one 40 min nap which I thought I'd lose my mind, and a 12.5hour night.

But I hate the EBT and the EWU times too.  Are we just to wait it out until their A times increase naturally?  It seems that this may be the case when it comes down to it, no matter how much tweeking we do.

He won't sleep more than 13ish hours in 24, with a rare exception.  But if he has a monster night sleep and a big nap too, I feel like he's prone to NWs. and EWs.

If I limit his nights, like today for instance, I would have woken him up at 6am(he woke on his own at 6:25), but his nap would have been at 11am, and I feel like he would have maybe tacked on the lost night sleep and given me 1.5hr nap, but who knows?

Again, no help really, but maybe we just have to wait this out.......

[jessmum46]

You know Jennfl I've been wondering the exact same thing about long nights - if LO is getting almost all their 24h requirement overnight because of short nap/EBT situation, is there actually any hope of getting a long nap the next day? 

[*Becky*]

yup me too...jennfl I could have literally written your post word for word. x

[clazzat]

I don't really know what was different, becky - he did fall asleep earlier (11.45 rather than 12) but I'm pretty sure we have tried early naps before without any luck. I'm going to stick with the 11.45 plan for a few days and see what happens. It's not a time related, though - yesterday he woke at 5.30 but today was 6, so his a time today was half an hour shorter but got me the same nap. 

[*Becky*]

we got a 12 hour night which is great
Same issue today though.....have decided today when she wakes I am just going to lie down in her room on the floor so at least she is resting.
I will never solve it unless I know what the issue is. I am guessing it is OT but bringing nap much earlier than 11.30am is a PITA and risky if she does not nap a good solid 2-2.5 hours.

[*Becky*]

another 1 hour nap, waking crying.

[jessmum46]

(((Hugs))) Becky any discomfort at the moment?  Am guessing an hour is one sleep cycle for her now? Have you tried meds to see if they help?  What's she like once she's up from the nap - as in, does she handle the afternoon well or is she really tired and cranky?  I've been wondering (had similar here) if some of these shorter naps are in fact UT enough to prevent LO transitioning to the next cycle, but they wake crying because they are not fully rested iykwim? 

[*Becky*]

we have tried meds on and off. She has a cold so is struggling a bit with that and she had one a couple of weeks ago so basically since we started 1 nap days. She 'could' be teething canines, they are the next teeth but not sure about that.
I lay with her until about 1.30pm and normally she cries and tries to get up but she was pretty happy to just chill there a bit.
Her mood is not great by about 4pm...tired etc. Another EBT looms which means we get 'stuck' there yk?
Thanks for listening xx

[jessmum46]

Honestly Becky you are describing our days exactly at the moment. Just had all of a 37 minute nap that I couldn't resettle *sigh*