these naps are just wearing me down

[*Becky*]

hugs hun xx

[Truly Blessed]

Clazzat, maybe it's the end of the 18 month regression 

((Hugs)) to you all.x.

[clazzat]

Let's hope so, vicki! We got 1h35 today, which I am still very happy with, but is sadly consistent with any other time he has had a good spell - we get 2 or 3 really good days, then a couple of days which are fine considering how badly he sleeps and then it gradually just gets worse and worse... I'm not really sure that I identified the 18 month regression (although it did cross my mind last week when his sleep was just crazy bad) because we have never had good enough sleep to regress from!

How was bedtime, becky? Did you go early? How do you feel about trying to ap her back to sleep in the morning when she wakes early? I'm still not sure if it is a good idea, but most mornings I end up sleeping on the mattress in x's room from whenever he wakes up until it is time to get up at 6 - he does go straight back to sleep if I am in the room (he has never been one to go back to sleep with me, so I don't really have many ap options) and so we are getting much more sleep that way, although I am concerned about what happens in the long run.  I'm just wondering if it could at least help you get miss m to a sensible wake up for a week or so so that you can push the nap later and therefore bedtime as well. 

[*Becky*]

She was slightly OT last night. BT is normally fine and it was but not straight to sleep like normal. She woke after 10 hours but put herself back to sleep and then woke at 5.30am but did the same and we started the day at 6.10am. Not bad at all but she 'is' a bit OT now so goodness knows what to do today.

I have tried so much to AP her back in the mornings and for nap time but it is not easy. If she wakes and is loud then I lie on the sofa downstairs with her and sometimes she will fall back to sleep but not normally. She is very AP resistant and if I am in the room it tends to make things worse..

I don't know, I know she is fairly low sleep needs and she has literally always woken early...not sure how we will get through it tbh.

Henry woke at 5.30am today as he has a horrid cough so everyone is tired

[clazzat]

If you are sure that she is low sleep needs, do you think maybe you could push her nap to 1 and let her sleep for an hour and then put her to bed at 7? Maybe that would push her sleep into the night, which I think is what you want?

[*Becky*]

she would not handle it....anytime I push her in any way we end up in chaos. I have no idea clare, this has been going on for ever. We did get onto a good routine at 15 months where she did a 20/30 min am and a 1.5 pm and as long as the last A did not go over 4 hours she would sleep around 11 hours...

[*Becky*]

I wish I could just say oh she is a bad napper and just get on with it but she isn't, she was so good on 2 naps and that is what is hard, That and knowing that her wake ups in the am ARE def OT. She has always slept less in 24 hours than other kids on the birth clubs but if she really was low sleep needs I would not be expecting her to get so OT yk?

[clazzat]

Is she touchy? I know a few touchy bubs who really struggled with ot but didn't need as much sleep as would have stopped them getting ot - does that make sense?i know that we had a hard time with getting e on to 1 nap as 2 naps was too much sleep but she would get really ot on one nap. With her we set the nap at 12.15 and just kept pushing her until she was able to cope with it - I don't remember it taking that long, though, so maybe m is not doing the same thing.

[*Becky*]

I have never thought of her as touchy tbh, def not in personality but maybe sleep wise she is.
I think DH and I have decided just to set a nap time and push through with it like you did. I really feel an 11am nap is too early for us as a family and I also think being consistent is better all round. I think we will do midday. That way if she short naps it is not as early as if she had gone down at 11.30am yk?

[Truly Blessed]

Good Luck with it Hun, everything X'd for you.x.

[jessmum46]

Really hoping things stabilise for you Becky x

[*Becky*]

we managed to get a 1.25 nap yesterday but I know she will always nap better for DH!!

[jessmum46]

LOL same here!!!!  No naps over an hour all week for me - slept 1h40 for DH!

[Truly Blessed]

How annoying is that when Daddy's are the one's who tend to wind them up at wind down time!  x.

[*Becky*]

Sat
A - 6.05am
Nap - 11.45-12.55pm
BT - 6.10/15pm

Sun
A - 6.25am
Nap - 12.10-1.35pm
BT - 6.45pm

Mon
A - 6.25am
Nap - 12.05 - 1.35pm
BT - 6.50pm

Things have been better....clearly I am jinxing it now!!
We have had a 1.5 nap the last 2 days.

Wondering if sticking to about a 12.5 hour day sounds ok to you all....I feel if I push her further it may backfire but then is her day too short do you think?