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how much for 11 day old
« on: December 04, 2012, 19:38:18 pm »
Just wondering i am giving my baby 3 oz bottles every 3 hours he doesnt finish it all the time just wondering is this enough. At nite he can b hard to settle he would get a bottle at 1130 12 and can b unsettled till i give him a bottle again even though may hav only been 2 hours. Is he to young to df cluster feed and wondering how do u cluster feed unsure how to do this.
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Re: how much for 11 day old
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2012, 22:49:29 pm »
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Re: how much for 11 day old
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2012, 04:37:50 am »
Hi Hun...

Notice that you bumped ;)  Please remember that we are all moms too and are all around the world so won't always get to you within a couple of hours ;)

If he isn't finishing the bottles every time, then you are fine ;)  If he starts to drain them, add an ounce to ensure that he stops when full.

There is a 3 month growth spurt so the less than 3 hrs thing could well be that.  Very common to be unsettled at night at this young age too...

Cluster feeding is generally stopped around 8 weeks so a bit late to start that.. but you could well try a dream feed.

Here is a quick link for DF info:
Cluster & Dreamfeeding FAQ's - Starting, how to do it, stopping & problems

Have a peek at the FAQ's - lots of info about growth spurts etc...

How much does he take in 24 hrs and what does he currently weigh?



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Re: how much for 11 day old
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2012, 16:30:24 pm »
My lo is 12 days old so he should b ok for cluster feeds. I bumped the post just to make sure was near the top. He weighs 7lb 10 ozs was weighed today by nurse.
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Re: how much for 11 day old
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2012, 16:39:49 pm »
also he is feeding every 3 hours and sometimes goes 3 to 4 hoursat nite i am just confused on what to start 1st the dream feed or cluster feeding.
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Re: how much for 11 day old
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2012, 05:57:35 am »
i wondered this too. my little man is 2 weeks old today and is still an erratic eater/sleeper so on average he's taking 3oz every 3 hours... now he was 6lb 7oz born and as of yesterday he is 7lb 2oz. what i'd like to know is if i am overfeeding?

he has had problems with wind and pooping recently since i stopped BF'ing


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Re: how much for 11 day old
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2012, 18:23:36 pm »
Cluster feeding is really for babies up to about 8 weeks- after that Tracy recommends combining the clusters into a 3 hour EASY so that the last feed of the day is about 12 hours after the first then you do a dream feed and 1 or 2 night feeds depending on the baby. If you are already cluster feeding and it's going well then carry on or you can split a feed around bath time. I wouldn't start cluster feeding at this age, you are better to start trying a dreamfeed but not all babies take to it straight away.

It's very hard to overfeed a baby if you follow their cues - they are very good at self regulating. By 10/11 weeks most babies are taking around 5oz, some a bit more, some a bit less. If it is taking more than 20 mins to feed then try the next teat up as bottle feeds should be finished in about that time.

Pichi - If you baby is draining bottles then you need to add another oz so he can stop feeding because he is full and not just because the bottle is empty.

As Kara said, we are all mums here with busy lives and in totally different time zones. The bottle feeding board isn't that busy so your posts won't get lost so you don't need to bump them up - someone will get back to you and we will help as much as we can but you do need to be a bit patient sometimes. :D

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Re: how much for 11 day old
« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2012, 22:05:13 pm »
My lo is 12 days old so he should b ok for cluster feeds. I bumped the post just to make sure was near the top. He weighs 7lb 10 ozs was weighed today by nurse.

Sorry - read it as 11 weeks, not days ;)

This would mean that you start to do cluster feeds now.. the DF is started when you combine the clusters (you don't do cluster and DF at the same time).

So for example, you could have a day like this:

Feeds at 7, 10, 1, 3, 5, 7pm... or  7, 10, 1, 3, 6, 8pm... you just have to figure out what will work best for your baby since they are all different.

As for these babies being unsettled. waking frequently at night - normal.  Babies don't really start to sleep well at night until about 3 months of age - some moms are lucky enough to have good sleepers (meaning only 2 NFs) by about 8/10 weeks.

Check the link I posted for more info on clustering and DF :)



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Re: how much for 11 day old
« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2012, 14:36:47 pm »
Thanks kara was unsure what to start 1st just wondering after the last feed at nite i usually wake up before midnight to give him another feed. he would wake again then round 3 and 6 in the morning . I wake him as want him to hav a feed and then i get few hours sleep dont want him waking at 1 for feed. Is it ok to do this 
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Re: how much for 11 day old
« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2012, 15:46:10 pm »
Kara - what are we like, I read it as 11 weeks too! Really sorry pat26!

What time is the last feed at night? If you mean the bedtime feed then I would try a dreamfeed between 10pm and 11pm. You don't wake for a dreamfeed - just pick up out of the cot, put the bottle in and he should start sucking then lay him gently back down after.

Personally I didn't ever wake my two at a particular time at night, we did the dreamfeed (which actually didn't work for either in the end but they were both refluxers) and just let them wake when they were ready. It did mean they were hungry and ready for a feed and settled back to sleep quickly too.

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Re: how much for 11 day old
« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2012, 17:38:21 pm »
Well he feds at 6 9 and 12 in the evenings at the moe. Up above kara saids not to do df yet so which should a start with df or cluster feeding bit confused. the 12 fed he does b very sleepy even though he wakes up he goes bac over to sleep ok. 
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Re: how much for 11 day old
« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2012, 04:19:17 am »
I'm not a fan of waking a baby at any time after bed for a feed...

What time does he go to bed for the night?  Is he still up for the 9pm feed?



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Re: how much for 11 day old
« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2012, 13:57:34 pm »
he bes a sleep but he starts to come round for the feeds at 9 then he usually comes round for a feed round 12 sometimes wake him up. I want him to get into a rountie for the evening thats why wondering what to start 1st the cluster feeding or df?
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Re: how much for 11 day old
« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2012, 21:28:43 pm »
Did you read the link I posted: Cluster & Dreamfeeding FAQ's - Starting, how to do it, stopping & problems

This provides all the info about both cluster and dream feeding...

You can certainly do both of them now... just remember that you do not wake baby for the dreamfeed.  Clustering is done in the earlier part of the evening every 2 hrs to "tank baby up" to sleep longer at night... and most will generally do it naturally.  Most moms do find that clustering and DFing follow one another - meaning you do the clustering until around 8 weeks of age, then change over to doing a DF between 10-11pm (assuming bedtime is 7/730pm).

Also, the DF can take a week to work (meaning for baby to readily accept it while asleep).  And further, some babies do not take to it and will wake up just as much if not more with it.  Neither Laura nor I did the DF with our kids.



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Re: how much for 11 day old
« Reply #15 on: December 08, 2012, 23:03:10 pm »
Thanks kara so wtih the cluster feeding u r doing it every 2 hours in the evening so my lo would still b looking for a bottle before midnight so should i treat this a as a df. can i ask if the df didnt work for u did your lo just wake up before midnight looking for a feed.thanks for the advice
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Re: how much for 11 day old
« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2012, 23:13:09 pm »
I actually never tried a DF (I didn't find BW until DD was almost 6 months old ;) ).

That said, once DD was about 8 weeks old, we started her bedtime routine to have her sleeping by 8pm after her last feed at 750pm.

From 8 - 12 weeks, she woke twice, once around midnight and once around 330/4am for a feed, up for the day around 630/7am.

She naturally moved her bedtime closer to 730pm around this time so her last feed was around 720pm

From 12-19 weeks, she woke once somewhere between 1-4am (generally 2-3am), and would go right back to sleep until 6/630am.

At 19 weeks, she stopped waking at night very suddenly (went from every night, to once or twice for a week, then not at all). When she did this, she also shifted to a 10 hr night that was 7pm-5am with no NWing.  I do wonder if she would have slept through to 6/7am with a DF, but alas, I will never know ;)

Either way, she survived and napped like a champ at the time ;)

so wtih the cluster feeding u r doing it every 2 hours in the evening so my lo would still b looking for a bottle before midnight

Not necessarily - many will sleep a good stretch after clustering... if baby does wake and it has been at least 3 hrs, go ahead and feed and put back to bed. 


should i treat this a as a df.

Not sure I follow you here... you do not wake baby for a DF - they are asleep for it.  The idea is that you do a DF between 10-11pm and then baby will not wake until much later - generally past 2/3am for a NF.



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Re: how much for 11 day old
« Reply #17 on: December 09, 2012, 08:02:28 am »
I may be being a little dim but for cluster feeding, how do you start it? If my Ds isn't awake every 2h to cluster feed then does that mean waking to sleep? As I don't really like the whole wake baby to feed? :|


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Re: how much for 11 day old
« Reply #18 on: December 09, 2012, 08:18:01 am »
Some babies naturally wake to cluster feed in the evenings, some don't need it so if he is asleep and not waking looking for feeds I would leave things be to be honest. It may be in a week or so that he is awake a bit more in the evenings and is looking for feeds. Don't forget your babies are so tiny things can change is a few days. Neither of my kids wanted a cluster, even if they woke if it wasn't 3 hours since the previous feed they weren't interested.

I would relax a bit and go with the flow - if they wake and are hungry then feed them. It's actually quite hard to get into a routine with such tiny babies, keep the EAS structure as much as you can and don't worry too much about timings for now. There is plenty of time to get into a proper EASY as they get bigger - many people don't find BW until their babies are older and still manage to get it sorted.

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Re: how much for 11 day old
« Reply #19 on: December 09, 2012, 12:19:53 pm »
Thanks girls i didnt find bw with my 1st till she was over 2 mths so never did the cluster feeding but did do the dream feed which worked a treat with her. I am diff going to relax more as he is only 2 weeks so still very small he is in a small rountie at the moe which seems to suit him at the moe. Because he is so small  dont think he be ready to go without a big bottle beofre midnight and with df my 1st used to only take an oz which diff dont think would fell him up may try the cluster feeding 1st and c how that goes.
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Re: how much for 11 day old
« Reply #20 on: December 09, 2012, 15:46:54 pm »
Agree with Laura - I didn't do cluster or DF with my DD and she did fall into a feeding pattern by about 3 months naturally ;)



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Re: how much for 11 day old
« Reply #21 on: December 09, 2012, 16:53:33 pm »
Thanks kara just want to start as i mean to go on hopeful he will sleep throw the nite by 3mths or so that why wanted to start the whole rountie with easy but will take my time starting it and enjoy my little man now thanks girls will diff be back for advice soon
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Re: how much for 11 day old
« Reply #22 on: December 09, 2012, 17:00:06 pm »
hopeful he will sleep throw the nite by 3mths or so
 

Well, you never know but I wouldn't be holding my breath for that! ;D There are truly not that many babies sleeping through the night at such a young age - most babies still need a nightfeed until they are established on solids and that is totally normal! Sleeping through is as much developmental as calorie driven, they will do it when they are ready!

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Re: how much for 11 day old
« Reply #23 on: December 09, 2012, 17:08:06 pm »
Doesnt mean i cant hope and pray  ;D but hopeful one nite may b gone at least  :)
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Re: how much for 11 day old
« Reply #24 on: December 09, 2012, 17:23:48 pm »
thats fine. i was just wondering how it worked. I go by my wee mans  eating signs :) and not trying to enforce a routine of EASY - just really gathering info for future months :) I found BW slightly later on with my DD too so early BW techniques are all new to me :)


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« Reply #25 on: December 09, 2012, 17:54:20 pm »
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Re: how much for 11 day old
« Reply #26 on: December 09, 2012, 20:40:05 pm »
I have a baby who was a phenomenal sleeper early on and she was 4 months before she slept through (and she is a rare exception!).  Granted, she only slept 10 hrs...



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Re: how much for 11 day old
« Reply #27 on: December 09, 2012, 23:24:26 pm »
10 hours sounds better than 2-3 i am getting at the moe mind u he does go bac over once gets bottle but miss i block sleep use to get least wonr b forever and when they teenagers we wont b able to get them out of bed  :)
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Re: how much for 11 day old
« Reply #28 on: December 10, 2012, 05:25:12 am »
Exactly - revenge will be sweet in those teen years ;)



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Re: how much for 11 day old
« Reply #29 on: December 12, 2012, 12:54:41 pm »
our DD started sleeping through at 6 months i think it was - so we were exceptionally lucky too :) i do remember a fluke day (xmas day) she STTN which was a nice Xmas present from her hehe


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Re: how much for 11 day old
« Reply #30 on: December 12, 2012, 15:56:35 pm »
i do remember a fluke day (xmas day) she STTN which was a nice Xmas present from her hehe

We had one of those too!  Feb 1st (DD born Nov 10)... she slept through 8-545am!  I felt like a new woman!



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Re: how much for 11 day old
« Reply #31 on: December 12, 2012, 16:15:15 pm »
Hi pichi tried to send u a pm again wont seem to send. My message was just to say if u wanted to keep in contact as our 2 lo where the same age. And we could help each other out.  :)

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Re: how much for 11 day old
« Reply #32 on: December 12, 2012, 19:18:28 pm »
aw sure no problem :)  I'm lucky that i have a textbook son, my daughter was a spirited little madame but also suffered reflux :( so that was a hellish 6 months or so!


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Re: how much for 11 day old
« Reply #33 on: December 12, 2012, 20:07:28 pm »
Emily was very good wee baby unsure what joshua is yet hav to do the wee quiz to. Where bouts in the world are u i am in ireland.
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Re: how much for 11 day old
« Reply #34 on: December 12, 2012, 23:05:25 pm »
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