NW disaster

[Bex09]

Ugh DD has been NWing for about 3 weeks now nearly every night. A few night ago she had me up about 6 times! So I have tried tweaking but nothing seems to work and I am at a loss now as to how to sort this. DD has all her teeth so can't blame them and she isn't ill or anything like that. So yesterday our day went...

Wu 7.20
Nap 1.30- 2.30 (capped)
BT 8.15 (asleep by 8.45)

This was a long time for DD to settle and she kept shouting things to us, so I guess UT. She was then awake for about 1.5 hrs from 3am then up for the day at 7.10. During the NW she was shouting "is it wake up time Mummy?"!! She then woke again at 6am and again asked if she could get up.

My gut feeling would be UT from her behaviour, but she is always so tired and would sleep for ever in the day if I let her. She hates the capped nap but if I don't cap then BT refusal is awful and she would be up until about 11pm! I have tried no nap days and she is fine with these but they make no diff to our nights. Any thoughts on what I can try?

[~Emma~]

Stinky 1-0!!    ((((hugs))))

 I have no solid advice. When we got to this point I just dropped it altogether and eventually he capped on to nights after about 2 weeks. My way of thinking was that when he woke at night from OT he was much easier to settle again as he was genuinally tired kwim? The UT wakings were marathon and I couldn't handle the residual OT during the day.

 Once we got to less than an hour for naps it was a pain waking him, he would be terribly grumpy for at least an hour afterwards. I would do quiet time on the sofa with a DVD and sometimes he would fall asleep there for a while. The wakings from the sofa seemed less harsh, kinda like he didn't even know he had been asleep!

 The transition is awful however which way you do it. There will be always be OT. I feel like B was overtired for months through that transition. When he was 3.5 he randomly went back to napping every other day for 2 hours, in his bed. He just dropped that agaon over Christmas. Twas a joyous few months!

[Bex09]

Thanks hun, I feared the advice would be loose the nap!  Am terrified of the thought of no more Y time! Lol. Although I guess I would have my evenings back with an EBT. How long was B's days when he first went to no nap? C can usually manage 11-11.5 on no nap but for no more than a couple of days. She is going to be so tired but I totally get what you are saying about being easier to settle at night on no nap days than when UT. Maybe I could do a catch up nap every few days? She doesn't nap on Mon or tues when at nursery anyway now, but by tues BT she is an OT meltdowning mess!! Oh the joys. Thanks again.

[~Emma~]

We would do an 11 hour day with B when he was dropping. Although some days when he started tacking I could easily have done a 10 hour day!! I think the catch up nap every few days is a good idea. b just wouldn't take to bed but we went through a house move just as he was dropping and it pushed the nap drop forward for us, we just had to run with it.

 Maybe on the Weds aim for a nap and then see how the rest of the week goes. Maybe a wee catch up nap on the weekend too?

 I know what you are saying about the Y time. I still miss it but the upside is that after a while (after the OT has gone!) you are not so tied to naps kwim? Think of it this way...in Summer you can go to the beach for the day without the stress of a napping baby!   

 The nap drop truly is the most stinking transition of them all.

[cuckoochick]

Hi hun,

We dropped the nap with C around two weeks ago now and our days are something like this:

Wake up (we let her sleep,as late as possible and it's usually been) 8:30
Bedtime 7ish

C is handling it fine. I've struggled some afternoons being home and wanting a nap!! I'm loving the EBTs. We've had 2 nights of bizarre NWS otherwise STTN. C does handle OT well though.

Hope you can figure something out

[Bex09]

Ahh thanks to both of you. C handles OT well too now Nicola and normally STTN when she is really shattered. But recently the no nap nights have been just as bad as the days when she naps. That is what was throwing me off track.

Emma you are so right about this transition being the worst by far. I thought 2:1 was bad and took us months, but this is even worse. Think that is a good idea about the catch up nap on wed and maybe Sat or sun. To be honest she is pretty good at tacking on lost sleep at night too, so at least that should be on our side. Wish us luck girls!! 

[cuckoochick]

All the luck you need!

[Bex09]

Thanks hun, her BGB is coming on Fri so that will be a whole new issue I am sure. Am hoping it will improve things, I may be delusional! 

[Truly Blessed]

her BGB is coming on Fri so that will be a whole new issue I am sure. Am hoping it will improve things, I may be delusional! 

You never know Hun, some LO's are so much happier when not behind bars  You going with a baby gate at the door  I would recommend it LOL.  Everything X'd for you.x.

[Bex09]

Thanks lovely, not sure how she will be yet about getting out of bed but def a gate at the door if it is a problem. We were forced into no nap today despite the worst nights sleep last night from a cough that C has started with! We can't win  so tonight she was asleep by 6pm!! Has never gone to bed this early in her life but she was so tired she could barely walk, poor thing. Anyway at least BT was no probs tonight, she was asleep before I left her room!

[cuckoochick]

Oh bless her! Hope she sleeps,well with her cough.  We haven't put a gate at the door. I wanted to but DH wasn't keen plus C likes to sleep with her door closed (which is also a good thing from a fire safety point of view). Hopefully your C won't try to escape! We actually have put C back into her thin sleeping bag as well because she was cold with just her duvet so that helps!!!

[~Emma~]

How did the night go?

 Throughout the 1-0 early BT is king! A few times B even did super earlies at like 5pm!  Just remember one day at a time.

[Bex09]

Hi girls just wanted to update. Things have been amazingly good! BGB has worked like a dream and C has been STTN for between 12 and 13 hrs no probs, in fact I can't get her up in the morning on nursery days! Her daytime sleep has been cut to between 30 and 45 mins as and when I think she needs it and it is working so well. Thank you so much for all your tips and help. Oh and C has never once got out of her bed yet bless her, I think she is just too comfy in it! 

[Truly Blessed]

So happy for this wonderful update  Sam is suddenly refusing naps,  so we are on day 7 today, pretty much the same situation.

Finger's X'd it keeps going well.x.

[cuckoochick]

Great update hun! Yay for the two C's! Xxx