7.5 months good morning nap/short afternoon nap help

[Jubulibie]

Hello all!

I have 2 questions about my lo's sleeping patterns! My lo has been on a schedule since about 5 months and has been a good sleeper/napper. For about 3 weeks we had the perfect schedule and were getting two naps of 1.5 hours. For the past week we seem to be in a bit of a spiral where morning waking is 6 -6:15 instead of 7-7:30 and her afternoon nap is only 35 minutes. I can most times get her to sleep till 6:45 or 7 am with a bit of help. I've tried changing her awake time, lengthening it a bit but always the same wake time. Usually I can get her to sleep for another 5 minutes by patting her bum and then another 2 minutes of bum patting and another 5 minutes of sleep until I'm fighting her around the 1 hour mark to stop wiggling/opening her eyes/crying. She acts like she wants to sleep more but just can't settle to sleep. At the one hour mark I give up. This is her schedule right now

Wake up - ish 6:15
out of crib, WU and BF  7:00 with solids at 8
A
S 10:00 - 11:30/11:45              Always 3 hours A after wu
E 11:45 BF with solids at 12:30
A
S 2:45 around 3.25/3.5 hours A time
E 3:30 BF
   5:30 Supper
A 6:30 bathtime or quiet time
S 7:00  sleeps through the night or once in awhile re-tuck and kiss at 5:00 or so.

 If she got up at 6:30, though, and had a 30 min. afternoon nap bedtime is 6:30 - possibly contributing to ew?

I have tried upping afternoon a time to 3h45m with the same 35 min. nap. She is learning to crawl right now which might be it? How can I help her as evenings are turning my textbook/angel baby into overtired and grouchy unless I carry her constantly.

Thoughts? Thank you!

[anna*]

If she does a good morning nap with 3hrs A time, could you try the same A before her afternoon nap?

[Jubulibie]

I  did try only 3 hours, but unfortunately she woke after 25-30 minutes and was happy and not about to go back to sleep so  i figured classic UT. She has always done 10-15 mins more A time the second time after a good nap, also. =(

[anna*]

Maybe another little push in A time, then?

[Jubulibie]

Well everything has been blown out of the water today as it seems! Maybe its the fact that I asked that everything has changed...

Bedtime last night was 7:00 pm
WU - 6:30
E - 6:45 bf, 8:00 solids
A - quiet play at home
S - 9:15 (only 2.75 A time, but falling asleep while playing so I put her to bed)
E - 10:45 - wake & bf, 12:45 solids
A - errands and play date
S - 1:55 3:20- tried a shorter A time because morning was shorter and worked like a charm!!?

Is this an extra tired day fluke? She hasn't had that short of A time since 5.5 months... Oh well, I will see how tomorrow goes and hopefully its the same!

Thanks! 

[lynners]

Lovely Erin M (Moderator on the NW's board) advised me that once LO's start getting more mobile, sometimes you need to pull back on their A's.  Maybe that's what's happening ??

[Jubulibie]

Ya, I'm not sure. Se is definitely trying to be more mobile, rolling and crawling backwards a lot. She had a bit of a time getting to sleep last night, here was her easy today. A little bit messed up.

Bedtime - 7:15, didn't settle till 7:30 (usually asleep in minutes)
WU - 6:30 (a little early seeing as she went to bed later than normal.)
E - 6:45 Bf, solids 8:00
A - quiet play at home
S - 9:25- 10:25 (only an hour?)
E - 10:45 bf
A - errands
S - 12:05 - 12:50 (in car, was driving for ten minutes and fell asleep so I let her sleep for 45, that only happens when VERY tired...)
E - 12:45 solids
A - playdate but grumpy, due to tired?
S - 2:50 - 4:05 (only 2 hours A time and was a pretty good nap)
E - 4:10 bf, 6:00 solids
A - play at home
S - 7:20 in crib but didn't settle till 8:00 (was very hyper - too much napping?)

Maybe its just her being more mobile? Should I be keeping her awake for certain amounts of time in order to keep getting two solid naps, or is 3 shorter okay for now? she hasn't had three naps for a month and a half.