Getting hyper right when laying down, developmental?

[Skadiver13]

Hi all, just a quick question. For the past few days when I put my LO down for naps/BT he is definetely tired and had a proper wind down. He has been sick with an ear infection so I'm doing a little apoping by making sure he's drowsy before putting him down (he's been an independent sleeper). However when I go to lay him down he'll roll over like he does but then get up on his knees and roll to his back than back to his front all over the crib. If I don't intervene he'll do it for 25min even though I know he's tired and ready for a nap. He then gets y because he can't fall asleep.

Is this developmental? I know he's not OS as I've been putting away all interactive toys 30 min before nap, and no TV. He's not yet crawling on his hands and knees but he does pull himself along on his hands quite well. But he never gets up on his knees during the day only when I lay him on the crib and he does it to roll over and over. 

[*Ali*]

Yes it does sound sound like he may be hitting a developmental milestone.

Either that or he is UT but if you think he's not and is ready for the nap my bet would be on developmental.

I'm sure you're already offering plenty of opportunity for him to practise rolling and getting on his knees during the A times.

[ZacsMumme]

And your prime timed for a WW too http://www.thewonderweeks.com/index.php/about-the-wonder-weeks/your-babys-10-leaps/mental-leap-6

[Skadiver13]

Its funny but he wont roll on the floor. I usually put him on his stomach though to practice crawling, so maybe I'll put him on his back too to see if he practices rolling aswell. He uses his hands to crawl when awake never with his knees which is weird.  Could be due to hardwood floors, I'll try to make room on the carpet i just worry about dog hair from the carpet .  I dont think he's UT as its everytime he goes down, and he'll take normal length naps. 

[ZacsMumme]

My DS was just like your when learning to crawl. Only wanted to try when he was meant to be sleeping
He then learnt to crawl from sitting position anyway x

[*Ali*]

I'm sure I read somewhere ages ago (sorry have no idea where now) that more babies are army crawling like your LO because the wooden floors many people have nowadays aren't so comfortable on their knees.
Maybe you could place a clean blanket or sheet down for him to crawl on so you don't have to worry about the dog hairs. We have cats so I know what you mean

[Skadiver13]

Ok, so Liam can no properly crawl etc. He's even walking in his walker. I started taking him upstairs about 30min before the nap and putting him on my bed to roll around etc as its big and he has room thinking it would get it out of his system before naps. I don't now if it's bacfired? My issue now is he's getting even more hyper before nap/bt to the point he can no longer self settle for naps. I have to go in after a while. Before it was just patting his thigh, now I have to hold his arms because he just starts flapping them and breathing really fast and kind of sucking his hand and moaning really loudly almost yelling (not pain related). It's very strange it's like it just all of a sudden started the other day. I do his wind down of diaper change sitting in the rocking chair and talking to him with some songs. He's usually pretty relaxed before putting him in his zippy. I zip him up turn the light off come back to the crib and say "it's sleepy time, I'll see you when you wake" and leave. He then starts rolling and rolling and now when he starts to cry I go in and he acts all hyuper and starts to laugh. I don't know what to do? He's been doing full 1.5hr naps (although today he woke after 45min after his second nap?) I think he was OS from all the flapping etc.

[*Ali*]

I would just call through the partially open door and tell him it's sleepy time or whatever you say as your sleep phrase. If he gets upset you can go in a little but if he is laughing I would just stay out and only call again if he cries again. That way he knows you are there but you aren't really interacting with him like a game,

[Skadiver13]

I see what you are saying. I did that this morning when he woke at 4:30. The issue is this can sometimes go on for 20min or so ending up OT?

[*Ali*]

I think the time will get less if you are consistent. Think if it as short term pain for long term gain

[Skadiver13]

Ok will try it.. its just always seems to have been a pain. Never sttn, always changing it up on me.

[*Ali*]

Like Tracy said, just when you think you have got it, everything changes

[Skadiver13]

So here's my question. He's now just immedietely starting to cry as I'm leaving the room. Gets up on all fours head up wailing.  It's like he wants to sleep but can't? I don't think he's OT or UT? Could OS cause this? I take away all TV and lighted/music toys 30min prior to nap, and this just started like 2 weeks ago. Should I do a longer wind down? It's now about 5min then he goes into his crib about 10min prior to "sleep" time.

[*Ali*]

Yes OS can make it difficult for them to switch off. It could also be developmental. He will recently have realised that you are a separate being who can walk away and leave him and potentially not come back.
Shall I ask for this thread to be locked and linked to your other thread in EASY  Early AM crib partys are back as that is more active? It is best to keep all your info in one place so you don't get repeated or conflicting advice.

[Skadiver13]

Sure thanks.