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Re: Support for dropping the nap part 9.
« Reply #225 on: March 30, 2013, 21:29:59 pm »
We are still getting resistance too.. I do offer most days and sometimes she will fall asleep but often just rolls around for ages until she gets upset and wants up!

Our issue is that we still have a rough patch around 4pm where she just really needs a nap (but it's clearly too late in the day)...

So, for now we are going to try alternating NND and nap days... we may bounce between every second day and every third, but that's okay ;)



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Re: Support for dropping the nap part 9.
« Reply #226 on: March 30, 2013, 21:49:27 pm »
Well, of course I've spoken too soon... F fell asleep today in 15 mins when offered the nap: we are now offering him at home telling him he has to rest for 30 mins, today we put a timer for 30 mins and he fell asleep in 15 mins, so he clearly needed the nap after 3 nnd. I let him sleep 1 h and woke him up (it was already 3.40 pm). He was still tired, so probably needed more, but I was sure this would have impact on bt. However, my plan of putting him to bed early due to clock change didn't worked and he ended up in bed at 9 (normal bt with the nap).
but if he's up earlier ie 7am i'd do 6.30, so ends up a much longer day. It takes out all the worry & guesswork, saves me stressing, & if he's tired we just have to suck it up & power on through. And yes if he got up really early eg pre 7am then i'd def make that a nap day. And if he's had say 1-2 nnd's & got up at 7-7.30 i'd prob still offer the nap just in case.
I think that, as they become older, they are starting managing a 12 h or even longer day. We often do a 12.5 h day on nnd, and F handles it very well and sleeps well in the night. But he needs napping every few days.
I think these kids still need napping sometimes, even if they have shorter nights some nap days, but having the sleep spread between nap and nights help them keeping OT at a bay.

Aishi, I think there are some LO that can't do nights longer than 12 h, my DS does 12 h absolutely max, and he's more around 11 h.

Kara, I think that offering her the nap, and letting her taking it or not, could be the right thing to do. We also have a moment of tiredness between 4 and 5 pm when F doesn't nap (and he falls asleep in the car if we are our in that period), then it passes and he's fine till bt.
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Re: Support for dropping the nap part 9.
« Reply #227 on: March 30, 2013, 21:54:59 pm »
Kara, I think that offering her the nap, and letting her taking it or not, could be the right thing to do. We also have a moment of tiredness between 4 and 5 pm when F doesn't nap (and he falls asleep in the car if we are our in that period), then it passes and he's fine till bt.

Ours is much the same.. it passes once dinner is on the table ;)



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Re: Support for dropping the nap part 9.
« Reply #228 on: March 31, 2013, 20:52:50 pm »
i think the way fwd for us maybe to stick to 12h nnds so that wu isnt too early and then do the odd uncapped nap as he seems to need it...wdyt?
Yes i think this sounds like a good plan. Its hard to say re the shorter day & whether you need to do more of them, as given ur ds is a bit older maybe he doesnt need as much night sleep as mine (or maybe he's lower sleep needs). We sometimes get 12hrs rather than 13 after nnd's -  if he's up earlier than we hoped then we just do a nap the next day & it gets us back on track.

We did nnd today as were out for the day & thought it'd work better with the clock change. ds was up at 7.40am (new time) & bt was 6.30pm. He's already had 1 crying nw so looks like his day was too long. Thankfully no work tomorrow so he can sleep in if needed.

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Re: Support for dropping the nap part 9.
« Reply #229 on: March 31, 2013, 21:18:29 pm »
We did the same for the same reasons. However, ds was so tired as he had a 10.15 h night yesterday (after the 1 h nap) and was up at 8.30 (new time). So at 5.20 he fell asleep in the car... After 10 mins I was able to wake him and we pushed him through till 8.30, so he had a 12 h day with a 10 mins late nap. I was afraid the late short nap would have impact his bt, but in the end he was tired more and less like with a no nap at all... I really hope for a 12 h night, as he needs it. And we have friends tomorrow, so I would prefer a no nap day.
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Re: Support for dropping the nap part 9.
« Reply #230 on: April 01, 2013, 06:50:30 am »
Yesterday Z had a day out with his grandparents. He napped 40 mins in the car an then had BT of 6.30. He slept till 8am :) so we were brave and did a NND today as he was so happy and wanting to spend time with DH. He was over it by 4.30 so I put him to bed at 5.40... I'm a risk taker lol. ;)

It's so hard with this 1-0 business be cause I really want him to nap - and need him too with T here too. But if he has a nap every day he is clearly UT. Claire I think we're similar to you, a combo of nap days and a few NND works better than capping.
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Re: Support for dropping the nap part 9.
« Reply #231 on: April 01, 2013, 08:12:33 am »
hi ladies hope u had a good night?

ds had a really good day and night yesterday

wu 8.45 new time
bt 8
sttn

today wu was 7.30 so i think i will do set bt at 8pm/ day length of 12 h as he seems well rested and hopefully even if he does 11h night wu will be post 6am!

good luck for today xx
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Re: Support for dropping the nap part 9.
« Reply #232 on: April 01, 2013, 11:02:15 am »
Hi ladies, DS is 3.5 and been nap dropping for about 6 months now but recently he has been having 2-3 hr NW on the days where he doesn't nap, which I assume is from OT. We were doing really well doing alternate nap days but all of a sudden it doesn't seem to be working. I could definitely use some help. Seems like the only days he will nap is when he is OT from the NW and then we are stuck in this cycle. Have tried early BT but still the NW around 3.


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Re: Support for dropping the nap part 9.
« Reply #233 on: April 01, 2013, 18:01:51 pm »
GGM what do his nap and NND look like?
Aishi yay for great day and night

DS still asleep at 7am ;)
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Re: Support for dropping the nap part 9.
« Reply #234 on: April 02, 2013, 03:26:54 am »
Sara - you better stop with the monster nights or we might plot to take you down!  Kidding of course, after surviving one kid with reflux and then getting another, you deserve for someone to sleep like a rock :D

I allowed DD a 90 min nap a couple days ago... bad idea.  BT was a fiasco at best and she didn't settle to sleep until 9pm.. up at 630am.  Not the happiest kid all day for sure... Managed to get her through until 630pm BT though and she slept like a rock for 12 hrs... no nap today and she did 12.5 hrs of A time (wee touch of OT starting now though).. she have made BT 630/645pm... live and learn!  Thankfully she does handle it really well :)




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Re: Support for dropping the nap part 9.
« Reply #235 on: April 02, 2013, 03:54:34 am »
She is coping so well kara!
Lol yeah he was never a good sleeper till the 2-1 ;) I'm thankful now as Thomas ain't e greatest ::) ;)
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Re: Support for dropping the nap part 9.
« Reply #236 on: April 02, 2013, 04:27:01 am »
Mommas should only have one horrid sleeper at a time!

She is doing so well with no nap... I have found she sleeps an average of an hour less total if she does nap!  Nap length makes no difference either.



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Re: Support for dropping the nap part 9.
« Reply #237 on: April 02, 2013, 08:56:30 am »
glad youre having super long nights sara xx

kara- think my ds is similar to your dd in that any nap regardless of length robs from night sleep.

ds did 8-6.30 and i co slept till 7.45 so not too bad. i think 12.5h nnd was prob a tad too long...when will the tweaking end??!
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Re: Support for dropping the nap part 9.
« Reply #238 on: April 03, 2013, 06:36:46 am »
Sara yes it does sound like Z is like O for his 1-0. We too get great nights so long as i dare to pd early enough! How long did Z sleep in the end?!

O is now resisting his nap at home quite a lot, so i dont think we can continue to reserve no nap days for when he wakes post 8am, we need to start doing more of them on days he wakes at normal time.

We tried this at the weekend & he did 13hrs both nights. Yesterday was up at 7.30am, napped at mil's from 1.45-4pm (she woke him). He went to bed at 8pm as usual, no messing around but laid chatting quietly til almost 8.30pm, so def UT. This has happened a few times after long naps at mil's, so i think we may have to restrict it a bit more soon.

He's still asleep so at least he's had 11hrs overnight. Think it'll have to be no nap today.

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Re: Support for dropping the nap part 9.
« Reply #239 on: April 03, 2013, 06:41:53 am »
Claire, he will sleep in till 7.30/8am now on NND and on nap days too sometimes ;) I find as long as he is active during the day and I don't push him too much on NND his sleep is great. Z hangs out in bed too, I don't really mind but that's because he still does 11 hrs min with the nap.

Claire, I cap the nap at 2 hrs still or wake at 3.30 at the latest. It's so odd that they cope better with nap and NND rather than capping short.
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