sleep is still not established

[Erin M]

Like yesterday he did 2 good naps 1.5-2hr, but today first nap only 35 min???

Are your A times consistent between the days or are they different?  Their sleep needs change a lot at this age, I found myself to always be pushing A time.

Glad you're getting some decent nights, ear infections were always one of those things where I'd wonder what was up and then figure it out and feel silly that I hadn't realized sooner. 

[mehibbitts]

Well I guess I spoke too soon.  We had a 5 night run, but last night he woke up at 9:00 after BT and again at 12:45-!:30.  Should I drop the CN even if his previous nap was 45min. which would put his activity time before BT about 4-5 hours long.   He is 6 months and 1 week old.  Yesterday was 4 every short naps 30-40 min. each, but today was as follows:

Wake @ 6:15 (really early)
E 6:50 6oz bottle and solids at 7:30
A  2hr. 25 min
S 8:40 awake @ 11
E 11 bottle 6oz and solids @ 12
A 2 hr. 25 min.
S 1:25 awake @ 2:10
E 3:15 bottle 6oz
A 2 hr 10 min
S 4:20 awake @ 5:01
E 6:00 solids  bath @ 6:30 and bottle 6oz
S  normally after bottle, but always on his own-- not tonight?? waiting for him to go to sleep as I type

[mehibbitts]

to answer  Erin I try always to look for his sleep signs but I watch the clock also and try for the same A times 2hr 15-25min

[Erin M]

I'd say pushing A times with a mind towards dropping the cat nap is a good plan right now.  I notice you got a really long nap in your EASY, but you were working on a broken night's sleep -- but when you tried the same A time later, you got a short nap.  I'm thinking more A time.  The tired cues can be somewhat unreliable when you're pushing A times, so better to clock watch for a week or so and see if it helps.  I'd just increase by about 10-15 minutes past what you've been doing, hold there for a few days, and see where it gets you. 

Did I link this yet?  I can't remember, but have a read if you haven't already, it's very useful: All about the 3-2 transition- 5/6 months

[mehibbitts]

Last night DS BT was 8:00 then woke @9:30 paci, sh pat, out.  STTN:-)
Today already out had a Dr.app. after an of nap how long of an A time??

[Erin M]

If it's shorter, cut the A time by 20 minutes and see where it gets you -- it's really trial and error with difference babies. 

[mehibbitts]

Looking good.  We are working on dropping CN so moved up BT.  Wakes early,but it will work itself out.  Naps are getting better 1.5-2.  A time is about 2.25-2.5.

[Erin M]

Great!

[mehibbitts]

DS is now having NW b/c he has turned on his belly.  Should I leave him on his belly and sh pat or return him to his back?

[Erin M]

You're right at the 6 month mark -- I believe at 6 months the recommendation is to put him down on his back and then let him roll to however he wants.  Can he turn back on his own?  If he can't, I'd give him lots and lots of time to practice it during the day (extra tummy time!) so he can roll over at night.  Some people will try to put them near a side of their crib so they can't roll over.  Is he over or under 6 months? 

[Erin M]

Here's tummy sleeping info: Tummy Sleeping

[mehibbitts]

I do put him on his back to sleep but he turns to his belly on his own in the middle of the night and it wakes him.he is 6 months in 2 weeks.  He can roll back to front and vice versa, but at night it seems to wake him up. I don't mind him sleeping on his belly if he's more comfortable.

[mehibbitts]

Naps are getting much better.  I have cut the CN on good nap days, but keep it if needed on not so good nap days.  He is having 1.5-2 hr naps :-)  thanks for all the help even when I was in doubt.

[katie80]

Sounds like really good progress!   Both mine started rolling to their tummies around 4-5mo, so I ended up just shh/patting them there. The recommendation here is that if they're strong enough to roll over to the tummy, they're strong enough to sleep there. 

[mehibbitts]

We are having multiple NW again. DS easy for the days we stay home:
E - 6:00-7:00 not sure why the EW
A - 2.5-2.75 hrs
S - sleeps 1.5-2 he's
E - 11:00 solids@12 ish
A - 2.5-2.75
S - 1.5-2 hrs
E- 3 solids @5:30-6
Bath@6- 6:30
Bottle then BT@7 wish
Wakes many times at night.  Last night @3, 4, 4:20, 4:50,5:30, 5:50 finally 7:15 for morning wake up. It doesn't always happen b/c he turns on his belly, but not sure why.  Always seems tired to me.