sleep is still not established

[katie80]

Those early morning, frequent wakings seem like discomfort to me. Have you just started solids? What types of things is he eating? Otherwise, I think the routine looks good.

[mehibbitts]

He has been eating for about 2 months now. He eats stage one puree.  When he wakes early and we take him out of his crib, he seems fine.  He never has a bottle before 7 even when he wakes early.

[katie80]

Hmm, normally frequent wakings at that time of morning indicate some type of discomfort or hunger.  If you don't think his tummy is hurting from the solids, could he in fact be hungry? Lots of LOs have a growth spurt raround 6mo.  I can't remember if he has a DF or not?  Have you tried feeding in the early morning to see if it helps?

The other reason for wakes like that is UT, but his routine doesn't suggest that, which is why I'd think hunger or discomfort.  What about something environmental, like temperature? Could he be getting cold at that point in the morning?

[mehibbitts]

He seemed to be waking at the same time each night, so I had decided to W2S it work for the first NW but not the 2nd.  Then last night after 1:30 he woke every 1.5 until 7:00   could use encouragement. 

[katie80]

(((Hugs))), it's so tough when they go back and forth like that.  I'm sorry you're feeling discouraged, let's see if we can figure something out.

Then last night after 1:30 he woke every 1.5 until 7:00

That seems like discomfort again to me.  Have I asked about teething at all?  Could he need an adjustment to his reflux meds?

What is your routine looking like these days?

[mehibbitts]

well I took him off his reflux meds in the morning to try and ween him off.   I really don't see signs that his belly would be hurting him, or other sym. of reflux.  But I do believe he is teething. He's constantly having his hands in his mouth drooling much more than normal ( even his luvly is wet) chewing on everything. Today it is very difficult he is crying constantly. He is normally a happy baby but he's night wakings were even more frequent last night.   I have been given the children's motrin and gum med, but very cross.  Any other suggestions?

[katie80]

well I took him off his reflux meds in the morning to try and ween him off.   I really don't see signs that his belly would be hurting him, or other sym. of reflux.  But I do believe he is teething.

Did you take him off his meds under your Dr's guidance/advice?  I don't know all that much about reflux, but I do know it can flare while teething and it seems that not many LOs are successfully weaned from meds until they're a bit older.  I do think the NWs and fussiness are likely due to discomfort.  Whether it's a combination of teething and reflux or just teething, that's what they sound like to me. 

(((Hugs))), I know it can be exhausting to be up all night and have a fussy baby during the day.  Is there any way you can AP him for a nap or two, so that you can get a break?

[ZacsMumme]

Hi there,
My almost 6 month old is being a bit of trouble like this too ATM. He is sick with the flu but I do find he does this when teething, sick, refluxing or GS. My guess is that if he is teething this has caused a reflux flare (which they do) and because meds have been weaned the acid is causing pain. What meds was he on Hun?

Have you noticed any of the symptoms come back?  Reflux 101 - General reflux information

How are poops? Constipation can also cause sleep issues. Is LO congested at all?

Hugs, I get it. I'm severely sleep deprived today too

[Erin M]

What's your routine like these days?  It can help us figure out if some tweaks might help too.

[mehibbitts]

We're Sttn again :-) I think it was teeth and reflux.  I ended up giving his meds again and teething subsided too.  He is currently on prevacid compound 2x a day 2.5 ml not sure of the dosage b/c thew out the bottle getting new one today. 

[katie80]

Yay for STTN!

[Erin M]

Yay!

[mehibbitts]

What is normal wake times for a soon to be  8 month old ?  His naps aren't as good as before. This is causes a CN that we had cut out and sometimes even a NW.

[ZacsMumme]

Gently push the A times out longer and things should come right.
What was your EAS? - my ds1 was on ~3.5 A times at this age one was longer.

[katie80]

I agree, average is around 3-3.5hr. Is he getting teeth or anything developmental to interrupt sleep?