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[Shiv52]

Wow that was very unhelpful of her. I think what she meant to say was using a bottle makes things very difficult if you want to BF a sleepy sleepy baby. So by latching first and trying to get her to feed then syringing in the top up you will help things along. My friends BFing was cut short because the MW told her to bottle fed the top ups and it was only months after she realised had she could have syringe or cup fed then the bottle preference wouldn't have had a chance to develop.

Hugs xx. You are doing so well xx

[Fiver]

she could have syringe or cup fed then the bottle preference wouldn't have had a chance to develop.

This.
I presume the LC has checked for any anatomical issue that might be preventing a good latch?  The one you're seeing right now doesn't sound all that helpful (or supportive!) to be honest.  Is there someone else you could see instead?

[PaulsMom]

Wow, that is a really nasty comment for the LC to make.  Just wondering if your dd was checked for a tongue tie?  Also, I wouldn't worry too much about not being engorged. I didn't get engorged with my DS but bf him for 13 months.  Hugs.

[Fiver]

Just wondering if your dd was checked for a tongue tie?

That's partly what I was driving at when I asked about anatomical issues.  That and lip ties.

[eva026]

Also, I wouldn't worry too much about not being engorged.

Same here, first time around I had balloon boobs within a few days, the second time around it didn't happen. My milk just slowly changed colour from yellow, gradually going whiter and whiter.

[twogirlsmommy]

No tongue tie or anything like that. No other support at the moment v/c I can barely move. Just doing the best we can.

[Fiver]

*hugs* Keep up those pain meds

[Diana1981]

So to be honest I'm doing all I can but I'm also trying to deal with the emotions if this just doesn't work as we are on day 5 and still no real signs of milk, there are changes but no like gushes of milk or engorgement.

Hugs sweety. Emotions will always play tricks before, during and after pregnancy. But can I just say that with ds1 my milk supply was very high, my boobs were so engorged, the milk came out like a rocket sometimes  but I did not experience any of these with ds2 and I was able to BF both my kids for more than a year. I remember with ds1 I was able to pump more milk at a time.

So don't worry you are doing a great job!

[Erin M]

more (((hugs))))

[lily_layne]

(((hugs)))  Have you tried visualizing the milk flowing when your LO is latched and when you pump?  I know it's a little "out there" but my LC has said a lot of women have had success with visualization - she said the key is to imagine LOTS of milk (like an entire river or something similar).  She said part of the reason it works is that by focusing on the image it can help your body relax and do what it needs to do.  I have some recorded breastfeeding affirmations I can send you if you'd like - PM me if you want them.

[squeakersmum]

Many hugs and speedy section recovery vibes XXX

Have you tried nipple shields? I know with DD they definitely encouraged her. Yes, they needed to be weaned but they definitely helped her to feed in the early days.

[CCCmom27]

Just sending you some (((hugs))) today. Remember to enjoy those newborn snuggles while feeding no matter how she's fed.

[weaver]

Couldn't read and not send hugs.  Vibes for a slightly more awake baby too.  You're doing really so well.

[eva026]

Have you tried nipple shields? I know with DD they definitely encouraged her. Yes, they needed to be weaned but they definitely helped her to feed in the early days.

yeah forgot about those! We used them at the start too, and then again after 2mo when Dd went on a nursing strike and I just didn't bother to wean them again. We BFed for 11.5mo and they never caused any problems.
There was an article sb posted here about the new nipple shields not being as "bad" as they thought.

[twogirlsmommy]

No no nipple sheilds.  I just keep trying to latch and if she doesn't then we move on. I'm pumping about 20/25ml every 3 hrs at the moment.  Not much else I can do but try and remember to try to enjoy this time as I really didnt with dd1.