Horrendous long NW with baby trying to crawl

[ZacsMumme]

I'm talking hours I'm beside myself. Before this we were finally in a good EAS
WU 6
Nap 9-10.30
Nap 1.30-3/3.30
BT 6-6.45
NF 11-2 (anywhere in here)

We do get ENW but always have, usually a replug. EW come with constipation too on and off.

So last two nights have been (at diff times but here's last night - night before was 3 hrs 11-2)
NW 7.15,8,8.30-10.30 two hours! 5.30-6.15 sleeping now at 6.51 but he will no doubt wake soon.

DH and I are loosing it. He won't let us
- shh/pat or an variation
- rock him, till hes exhausted and even that's a fight

It always escalates
He is trying to sleep but wakes over and over and over ... He rolls Onto his back, gets on all 4s, wriggles.

I don't know what to do? Eventually DH rocks him into a deep sleep, it's a saga.

[Edesanja]

Ugh Sara! All I can say to you is SAFETY-SLEEP!!!!

[lily_layne]

We've had similar NWs here at times.  I never did find a good way to settle DD quickly but they've always passed within a few days.

[ZacsMumme]

Jenny, I think he would go nuts with a safety sleep too much pressure makes him go nuts. Would we have the same drama when weaning it anyway alter on? Or not???

Lily. I hope it passes we are on night 2. I'm exhausted. He's exhausted. I have no idea what to do with his naps!

[lily_layne]

I was totally lost about naps following those nights too.  I think I just followed her cues because I had no idea what to do.  My fingers are crossed that tonight is better.

[Edesanja]

My kids were OLD when we weaned ours (just over 2 I think and certainly didn't need one then (they were both very good at staying in bed) but it was part of the routine IYKWIM so THEY didn't want to ditch it!).
It might work if he's only partially awake IYKWIM - enough to stop him rolling so stop him waking.
You sew don't you? It was easy peasy to make

[ZacsMumme]

Yes I sew. Maybe Ill make one this weekend. I'm kind of hoping this will pass though it probably won't!

Today he has had a TON of floor time so he better sleep better!!

I'm not sure how to deal with it in the moment though for now Wait for full cry then what? We try everything feeding, rocking, shh/pat, intervening fast, waiting till he's loosing it ... Nothing helps

[lily_layne]

When DD had nights like that, I found complete darkness and feeding while rocking and patting her back until she was in a deep sleep were the only things that worked.  I did always wait for the full cry because sometimes she will settle herself and my intervention just wakes her up more. 

[ZacsMumme]

Well I can report o 2 hr long NW last night but we had a battle at BT instead and a short night as we had anther leak
BT 7. (He's usually 6.25/30), NW 9, NF 11
EW 5.30 I've attempted a feed and pd in cot because he got angry at me rocking him but I doubt he will go back to sleep.

Lily - that worked with ds1 who loved BF and APOP but ds2 is a bit resistant. He isn't a feeder anyway (he doesn't feed well, nor is he interested ) and he's a bit APOP resistant

[ZacsMumme]

Omg he went back to sleep!! I think it's been 20 mins no noise and when I snuck in he isn't moving

This kid is the biggest enigma

[*Ali*]

Can you just sit in his room or at the crack in the door and use your voice?

Glad he went back to sleep. That is good news.

Is he in reflux pain do you think?

[ZacsMumme]

I just fixed my iPad typos - sorry ladies

Ali - I've tried that too...well humming, singing and shhing. I think his reflux is ok. Im sure its developmental but because of it he is OT now and settling is difficult for him YK? - we may have a bit of a prop issue in that we sometimes rock him to sleep, even tough he isn't always keen on it. So maybe struggling to settle is because he wants too but isn't good at it because we rock him

[*Ali*]

Sorry if you already mentioned this but have you asked the dr about the constipation? Maybe he needs help with it like a stool softener.

[ZacsMumme]

He is on lactulose. Hs been pooping a lot last few days since i cute right back on what i fed him solids wise, and encouraged him to feed reed feed. so I think your right, that could have been part of it.

So...what if these issues ie constipation will continue on and off. Do we just deal with it as we are, or do you think we still need to do a bit of IS work DH thinks he is ok. I'm skeptical we are hindering his ability to self soothe 

[ZacsMumme]

I don't know why I even bother...
He now has been cranky all day and has diarrhoea. So he's sick
Argh...