Horrendous long NW with baby trying to crawl

[katie80]

My guess would be OT just from looking at the EAS, but my two have been fairly low to avg A.  Do you think he likes his As to get shorter as the day goes on?

[ZacsMumme]

I wondered that too Katie, maybe he likes a long first A. He is avge-high A i Think but its hard to know as he hasn't slept well at night for so long, and now he is yk? Tomorrow ill keep the first at 3.10/15 and offer the next at 3? Ill see how he goes! Thanks Hun.

[Erin M]

I'd say cut it too if you haven't already.  When you keep pushing and it doesn't get any better, I think it's always worth going in the other direction. 
Nothing wrong with posting about tweaking on NWings -- it's all connected, yk?

[ZacsMumme]

Ok lovelies....
State of play is we had 2 more awful nights - I've since cut out another food I thought was safe and he's coming right...first normal poop this am

So last 24 hrs has been - note A times cut back a little
BT 6.45 (aimed for 6.30)
NW 8.30-10.30 yup absolute rubbish on and off sleeping but mostly awake sitting in the cot, unsettled, wriggly, didn't want us, didn't want bed, didn't want paci. But did want food once asleep (self settled in cot) he STTN till 6.05am
Nap 9.20-10.30 (I started WD early but I think he wasnt tired enough. Settled in cot.
Nap 1.30-2.55 (a bit angry not sure if OT or UT, settled in cot with pressure) I also snuck in at 35 mins and put my hand on his arm (side sleeping) and he stayed asleep through the transition.
So aiming for BT of 6.15/6.30 of which I know he will be behaving OT for.

So really, dyt were looking at UT or OT here? Or just that he naps for 1hr15 (seems to be his usual length) he sleep cycle is 38 minutes

[katie80]

So really, dyt were looking at UT or OT here? Or just that he naps for 1hr15 (seems to be his usual length) he sleep cycle is 38 minutes

I don't know. It doesn't really seem glaringly either. . Nice that he slept through that second one without having to be resettled, though.

I've since cut out antihero food I thought was safe and he's coming right...

What is antihero food?   (((Hugs))) for more rough nights.

[lily_layne]

(((hugs))) for the awful nights.
It sounds so much as the same as what's happening with DD - either a long early NW and STTN or a long NW later.

dyt were looking at UT or OT here?

Since I can't figure it out with my own LO, I won't attempt and answer for yours which is probably not very helpful.  DD also has a 38 minute sleep cycle so I count 1h15 naps as restorative.  Lately, she's been giving me longer naps but I think that's a product of her being under the weather and her rubbish nights.  I'm actually happy when her naps are 1h15-1h30 as opposed to 2h because then I know she's fairly well rested.

When he woke at 8:30, did he wake up crying?

[ZacsMumme]

Lol another food! (Sorry!)

He seems to wake crying all the time ATM. Which makes me think OT, but then it co e be discomfort

Katie, in the pm last few days I have gone in and layer a hand on him through the transition but he did stay asleep.

Last night was also terrible. He smelt like acid again
BT 6.30
NW 7.30-9 didn't want to settle anywhere - OT
NW 11 fed
NW 2 fed 3 oz which he drained because he was really upset and I was hoping it would sooth his throat!
WU 6.30

He seems to be APOP resistant ATM and like he hates his cot He's trying to pull up which isn't helping. (He never sits blooming still!)

[weaver]

Sara, just dropping off some more hugs. Poor little T, he's giving you a rough ride alright.

Any chance you can hold steady for a couple of days and see how he fares with 1hr 15 ish naps?  Just to test if that's his standard.  If memory serves, E here would have done something like that around that age. xxx

[ZacsMumme]

Thanks Anne
Yes I'm going to have to I think I can't resettle the am with Z around and he's so APOP resistant anyway so unless he does 30/40 there is no resettling in his cot or with AP.

Going for 3 hrs then 3hrs15 (to be consistent AND this is what is giving me 1hr15) but today we have a power outage so his white noise is not so good (ipad)

He's a bag of misery, I want my happy baby back

Oh and ladies...I'm tempted to try an earlier BT. 6.30/7 is the norm but he rarely wakes before 6 so if he has a bad night it's longer YK? Thinking 6pm?

[lily_layne]

(((hugs))) for you and healthy vibes for T.

An 6 BT might be worth a shot.  If you don't want to do it all at once you could maybe try 15 minutes earlier and see how it goes.

[ZacsMumme]

Omg red dot on gum, tooth about to pop. Today has been the pits

[katie80]

Lol another food! (Sorry!)

LOL, I didn't realize it was an auto-correct... thought it was really something.

(((Hugs))) hon, hope that tooth comes through quick! 

[weaver]

How are things, Sara?  Any sign of the tooth?  Wish life would just give T a break!  Just a week with nothing happening!

[ZacsMumme]

Thanks for thinking of us Anne. Yes, we have a tooth erupting of course it's not the usual central incisor but the one to the left I think his right one is also about to pop.

I know this looks foul - but his nights ok for him.
Bt 7 (because he was sleeping in so day shifted a little)
Few ENW usually easy to settle - bit of teething gel
NW anywhere between 10-2 for NF back to sleep
WU 6-7
Teething pain seems to be between 1pm-9pm then he gets a break ;

[katie80]

I actually don't think it looks that bad, but maybe my standard isn't too high!