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OT/UT I just don't get it
« on: July 27, 2013, 17:06:13 pm »
I'm at a loss

He was doing a 6 am wake up 11:30-1:30 6:30/7 bt. Then it all wenr ro put when we went on vacation. He atarted waking earlier napping badly etc.

Pasr week he has been so inconsistent. I rhoufht O Th so I put to sleep early at 10:45 he slept almost 3 hrs. Wwnt for mormal BT of 6:30 and he was hyper etc showing signa of OT running around hia crib etc. So tried another catch up day and he took a 1hr 15 min nap so did ebt. Ita back and forth I couldn't fi gure it out.

So yesterday I said enounfh if he has a decent night its back to set nap 11:30. He slept from 6:15 to 5:45 so went for nap of 11:30. He seemed tired enoufh and was asleep by 11:25. He could have been slightly OT but I'm tired of guessing that. Woke at 1hr 20 min wi de awake. I decided yestersay I'm also done rocking him back to sleep. Haven't had to do it oftsn ao ota not a prop per say bfut I'm juat done with it. (Unless he's sick). So did wi/wo today and afte r about 10min he did resettle which he's NEVER done for a nap before.

I don't think its teeth I gave meds. Could it be hunger? He had 1/2 a small muffin before his nap. I thought discomfort but he's sleeping through the nivht (knock on wood). Should I push the nap forward towrds 12?
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Re: OT/UT I just don't get it
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2013, 09:19:22 am »
I just can't figure I out. So after he resettled he woke at 1:40. So went for a 6:30 bt. Took him till 6:45 to fall asleep. Its 5:15 and he's awake. What is going on with him?
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Re: OT/UT I just don't get it
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2013, 09:44:20 am »
I'm so physically and mentally exhausted.  DH is away for work again. And even when he's home I get no breaks.  Its only 5:30 and im already crying what a way to start a Sunday.
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Re: OT/UT I just don't get it
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2013, 13:42:06 pm »
DEEP BREATHS Siobhan, I totally get what you are going through! I don't remember the 3-2 being this hard!
I am losing my mind here too!
Just remember that this too shall pass, sleep will get better again! I promise! :-*


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Re: OT/UT I just don't get it
« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2013, 17:04:53 pm »
Thanks. :) I think it was teeth. He was so cranky all morning. I put hin down at 10:45 he was so tired. Its 1 and he just woke up so that's good at least. Not a long nap but resrorative at least.
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Re: OT/UT I just don't get it
« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2013, 17:09:55 pm »
Those damn teeth are annoying, aren't they? >:(
We have been working on our last molar for over a month and only a third of the tooth has cut!


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Re: OT/UT I just don't get it
« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2013, 19:40:13 pm »
He has no molars yet. :/  This is just the 4th bottom tooth. I'm don't even know what to think about the fact he has no molars yet or how that's going to impact his sleep when they do come in.
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Re: OT/UT I just don't get it
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2013, 21:17:39 pm »
What length nights does he give you if he goes down early? Just wondering if you will get a decent WU if you do a 6pm bedtime tonight?  That seems reasonable to me given the early start and from a 1pm wake up, but I know not all LOs do well with early nights.  They really helped here though when we first went to 1nap, lots of 11-1ish naps and 6pm BT, and she would usually sleep until at least 6:30 the next morning. 

(((Hugs))), it seems like it's so easy to get into OT with this transition.  At least with 3-2 if one nap goes bad there's at least one more to make up for it, but once you're on one nap it's one shot in the day to get some decent sleep and that's it!  I found it got a lot easier once dd could consistently make it to 12:30 for the nap.  Before then we got lots of OT and naps under 2hrs, but once she could go down after lunch and could really handle the A time we had a great routine for months and it's only starting to change now at almost 2.

Also, you never know with teeth.  Don't despair!  My dd's first 8 teeth were horrendous so I was dreading the molars and canines, yk the supposedly 'bad' ones.  She ended up cutting all of those 8 at the same time and she was fine.  Not one single tooth related issue, and we had the whole works before. Weird!
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Re: OT/UT I just don't get it
« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2013, 22:11:31 pm »
Normally I'll get 11-11.5hrs. So BT at 6 is hard he doesn't tack BUT if I catch him and get him down early enough at 6 he might go to 5:30/5:45 which while not tacking on lost sleep is still a good night. He's only slept more than 12hrs twice in his life. LOL usually we get 11hrs. He went down at 6 with no issue what so ever so we'll see what kind of night we get.
Not one single tooth related issue, and we had the whole works before. Weird!

Oh my god emma one can only hope. :) The top didn't seem to bother him at all. The bottom seem to really bother him and take a looooong time to actually come in. I actually don't mind 5:45 I've gotten used to it but 5:15 was just too early. ykwim.

He was doing an 11:30 nap just fine but then OT set it and it went to pot. I'm trying to get back there. If he sleeps till 5:45 I can usually get to 11:15/30 ok. I just need two good nights so I can push his nap towards 12. A 7pm BT and 6Am wake up would  be fabulous.
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Re: OT/UT I just don't get it
« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2013, 09:24:02 am »
Ok...so he's not tacking. Yesterday was wake at 5:15 nap 10:40-1 bt 5:58. Woke at 5:20. So technically a good night but we are back at realle early morning again.  He did wake twice last night cried out at 8:45 ss then 9:40 I gave meds he ss and didn't hear from him again till now.

What in the world do I do?
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Re: OT/UT I just don't get it
« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2013, 10:43:51 am »
At that age if I got that early of a start I would do 2 naps.  Would he do that?  I found the 2-1 really annoying bc every time I thought we were finally good on one nap something like this would happen and we'd do a few days of 2 again.  It felt like going backwards, but we got there eventually.  I used to go by WU, so if dd was up earlier than say 7 I would do 2 naps, then it would be before 6:30 etc, until she could finally make it to one nap regardless. It took months of back and forth!
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Re: OT/UT I just don't get it
« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2013, 11:04:17 am »
Thanks but he's been in one nap for 2 months.  I've found going back To two naps backfires? It might be Worth a shot though given today's wakeup want ot related as he had a good night.  He rarely ever tacks. 
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Re: OT/UT I just don't get it
« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2013, 12:18:26 pm »
Emami, just wondering, at what age was did your DD move to one nap? At what age was she doing nap at 1230? What was BT?


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Re: OT/UT I just don't get it
« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2013, 17:11:33 pm »
She had her first one nap day at 9 months, which freaked me out because she was so young!  She wasn't ready then, but it was the start of the transition.  I remember her first birthday she took 2 naps to fit around her party, and then from 12 months onwards she was on one nap most days, but not totally until 14 months.  But at 14 months I was getting decent WUs, I still would've done 2 naps if she had had a pre 6am start.  And at 14 months she could make it until after lunch and our day looked like this for ages:
WU 7am
Nap 12-2:30
BT 7pm

So actually now that I think about it, she didnt move to 12:30 until later, but it was getting to the point that the nap wasn't late morning any more and interfering with lunch that made the day work better.

Sorry Siobhan, I did get the occasional early start but not regular pre-6am, so I'm not sure how to go about fixing that. I just know my dd wouldn't have consistently been able to handle a long morning to get to a decent nap time and I would've had to do 2 again for a bit.  If 2 naps backfires I guess you just have to push on with the long mornings and eventually he WILL get back to a decent routine.  (((Hugs))) in the meantime :(
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Re: OT/UT I just don't get it
« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2013, 17:41:45 pm »
That was our routine for more than. Month until DS got chicken pox and everything went out the window!
Anyways, when we were doing that routine he got OT and started waking between 530-6. We have kind of been winging it since he was sick and so OT but I can't really get out of the OT loop and am contemplating going back to the set times again. He is just so spirited and whiny/clingy when OT and I am having a really hard time handling it all...
Anyways, I wonder if I do go back to a 12/7 routine how much longer it will take him to just push through the OT and finally give me a good WU...