We need help...12 mths

[ZacsMumme]

T has been sick with a virus, croup and ear infection. So he is wayyyyy of track

Before this we were close to 1 nap. Ie
WU 6.30-7 (6.45 for ex)
A 4.5
Nap 11.15-1.15
BT 6
Or

nap 11.15-12.45
CN 4.15-4.40
BT 7

But I can't tell if T is ut/OT or just out of routine and in a developmental blip. His naps are broken, or 1.5 hours. He's refusing or resisting his nap (yesterday 5 hrs A then slept 1 hr then on off for 25 more mins and no CN) we have ENW...

So I guess I don't know how to get back on track. If I should just go for one nap? Pull back As or what
IS has taken a hit too...

Any ideas?

[Skadiver13]

Hi Sara is he still feeling unwell?

[ZacsMumme]

I think he is ok now. I thought he had caught up on sleep too, but now I'm not sure.
He does have 1 front tooth still about to pop (top right) and a bit snotty but he's much better now.

I swear we're in WW madness too ...

Last night was 6pm BT
NW 7 then 8.45 (both brief)
      11.15-11.45 I fed as he's hungry hungry hungry
      Heard him at 4.45,5.45, up 6.30

Ewwww

[Joy-filled]

Hugs to you too Sara  .  T has struggled with illness a fair bit, hasn't he?  Poor guy. 

Are his sleep cues helpful/reliable at all?

[HenaV]

Hey hon,

Well for us NW in that form would be OT. What have your last couple of days looked like?

H x

[ZacsMumme]

Last few days were good nights with a few ENW and 1.5 hr or less nap...we did a CN sat but not sun

Sat
WU 7
Nap 11.30-1
CN fought tooth and nail but got 4.30-5
BT 7.15
NW 8,9 maybe?

Sun
WU 6.30
Nap 11.30 would not go down sooner! Stirred 12.30,45 up at 1 refused CN at 4 then 4.30 till 5pm so
BT 6
NW 7,9, 11.15-11.45 with feed stirred 4.45,5.30 up at 6.30

Monday
WU 6.30 out of cot 6.45
Nap 10.55/11 - just gone 11.10

[Mama_Mia]

Sara that looks like a classic OT night to me. Poor baby being sick and not getting enough rest because of it. It is really tough when they are sick/teething and their sleep gets messed up. Then it takes days or weeks to get it all fixed up again. I wouldnt make the switch to 1 nap though until your sure he isnt teething or sick and he has had some good sleep. I would stick with EBT like you did with Zac for a few days and see what happens.

[ZacsMumme]

Thanks mama_c
Ok ladies, so consensus is OT...so how do I deal with it

Am I right that I should pull first A back a bit - let him sleep as long as he likes. IF it's 1.5 and before 1 ish then offer CN 3.5-4 hrs later with BT 2-2.5 after that?
What if say he does 2 hrs 11-1pm BT of 6 OR late CN?

[Mama_Mia]

I think your on the right track with that schedule, does he tack on at night? If he sleeps 2 hours I would try BT at 5:30-5:45 and see what he does. M STILL goes to bed at 5:45-6 most nights.

BTW, I think I read the exact same post about Z about 2 years ago, lol. Trust yourself hun, you did very well with Z and your going to do just as well with T.

[ZacsMumme]

Thanks Hun yes I read over Zs 2-1 and he did a week of 1.5 hr naps and even a 45er with CN refusal after he had a gastro bug but hen he came righto n his own;)

Ok so...he did 1hr40. I do wonder if he would have done longer though as he had acid spit up - so sure sign of teething here. so woke at 12.40 (I tried to APOP but no way - but he is still tired)

Does this look ok for rest of day
CN 4.30-4.50/5
BT 7
Yes I think he usually tacks on, but...sometimes will NW more but that's bearable if it's not silly hour

[HenaV]

Hey Sara,

I would perhaps do BT slightly earlier - 6.30 say?

I only say that because in my mind 2h10m total DTS is not a lots with a LO being OT xx

[Mama_Mia]

I would go with 7 you can always put him down sooner if you see he needs it or if he refuses the cn

[ZacsMumme]

Ok so he fought me tooth and nail all arvo but was clearly tired. This is what Z did with the CN but I could APOP in the car. I can't with T due to having Z I got 4.40-5.10ish. But it's killing me to rock him

He is insanely hypo - I think were in a WW, he's trying to feed himself, copy me, put things together. ATM he is climbing all over DH like a crazed puppy I don't think I can handle this much spirit he is eating a ton too...GS?

So..I can not see in a million years him going down now (it's 6.40) but we will aim for a 2 hr A - 7.10

I guess 1/2 the problem is he isn't IS again following this croup and illness. I don't know if I should st till he has caught up - it's a catch 22! WWYD?

[ZacsMumme]

Umm he is happy as a clam and wide awake. DH pd now and we are going to do WI/WO. I think to manage the OT he has to be sleeping on his own at least at BT again YK? Otherwise its like he needs us to rock/hold him but he can't settle and it creates the OT iykwim ... Wish me luck! I have tomorrow without Z so I can APOP his naps longer etc if I have too. X

[Mama_Mia]

M is the same way, when he is ot he gets hyper and stays happy. At one point I realized I needed to put him down as soon as he started getting hyper.