Author Topic: when did you know it was mpi? More help needed please  (Read 12332 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline ZacsMumme

  • Resident BW Chatterbox!
  • *****
  • Showing Appreciation 425
  • Gender: Female
  • Posts: 23962
  • You complete me
  • Location: NZ
    • Tomi & Roo Boutique
Re: when did you know it was mpi?
« Reply #45 on: October 24, 2013, 06:14:12 am »
Hey PLA there is One for 12 mths + . We were given a tin for t to trial. http://www.neocate.co.nz/neocate-option/neocate-family-of-products/neocate-advance-vanilla-with-prebioctics
(Sorry Laura a bit OT)
***Sara***
https://www.facebook.com/tomiandroo


DS1 - Our sensitive soul. Silent reflux.

DS2 Our cheeky chipmunk. Reflux, MSPI.

Offline pinkladyangel

  • Resident BW Chatterbox!
  • *****
  • Showing Appreciation 9
  • Posts: 520
  • Location: Lincolnshire UK
Re: when did you know it was mpi?
« Reply #46 on: October 24, 2013, 06:17:42 am »
Not sure about flavoured stuff though. too much like milkshake lol

Offline babybarr

  • Resident BW Chatterbox!
  • *****
  • Showing Appreciation 224
  • Posts: 12873
  • Location: Hampshire - UK
Re: when did you know it was mpi?
« Reply #47 on: October 24, 2013, 20:33:46 pm »
(Sorry Laura a bit OT)
No worries :-*

So went to gp and now they are on nutramigen.  I also spoke with O's pediatrician as he does allergy as well as immunology and he was saying it was the right thing to move them and he said that the next step would be neocate (as did the gp) so fingers crossed this is the answer as H had started to not drink his milk and he's normally the guzzler...
LAURA xx




Offline pinkladyangel

  • Resident BW Chatterbox!
  • *****
  • Showing Appreciation 9
  • Posts: 520
  • Location: Lincolnshire UK
Re: when did you know it was mpi?
« Reply #48 on: October 24, 2013, 20:48:01 pm »
Fingers crossed for you.  :)

Offline Buntybear

  • Food Allergies
  • Moderator
  • Resident BW Chatterbox!
  • *****
  • Showing Appreciation 130
  • Posts: 9686
  • Just the wheat allergy to go now!
  • Location: UK
Re: when did you know it was mpi?
« Reply #49 on: October 24, 2013, 20:58:07 pm »
Good luck, sounds like you have a good GP. So many ladies have to fight for HAF. X

Offline ZacsMumme

  • Resident BW Chatterbox!
  • *****
  • Showing Appreciation 425
  • Gender: Female
  • Posts: 23962
  • You complete me
  • Location: NZ
    • Tomi & Roo Boutique
Re: when did you know it was mpi?
« Reply #50 on: October 24, 2013, 22:07:47 pm »
:D happy to hear you have a plan
***Sara***
https://www.facebook.com/tomiandroo


DS1 - Our sensitive soul. Silent reflux.

DS2 Our cheeky chipmunk. Reflux, MSPI.

Offline babybarr

  • Resident BW Chatterbox!
  • *****
  • Showing Appreciation 224
  • Posts: 12873
  • Location: Hampshire - UK
Re: when did you know it was mpi?
« Reply #51 on: October 25, 2013, 06:19:13 am »
Need help! So they had two feeds xyesterday and seemed quite happy. Slept for nearly 5hrs straight which is a first and I got all excited then after their next feed - night time one and then also the second night feed- they have both been unhappy and periodically
Vomiting. So going to sleep fine and waking an hr later having been sick. Do you think it's just the transition
LAURA xx




Offline ZacsMumme

  • Resident BW Chatterbox!
  • *****
  • Showing Appreciation 425
  • Gender: Female
  • Posts: 23962
  • You complete me
  • Location: NZ
    • Tomi & Roo Boutique
Re: when did you know it was mpi? help! pg 4
« Reply #52 on: October 25, 2013, 07:13:02 am »
Hugs lovely. Could It be a late GS? Did they have the 3 wk one yet? If not it could well be that. It was the first time I noticed Ts reflux starting.

On neocate T vomited a lot at first - I think he overfed ::) plus it's really watery compared to other formulas. Not sure about nutr.. We were on neocate
« Last Edit: October 25, 2013, 07:14:49 am by ZacsMumme »
***Sara***
https://www.facebook.com/tomiandroo


DS1 - Our sensitive soul. Silent reflux.

DS2 Our cheeky chipmunk. Reflux, MSPI.

Offline pinkladyangel

  • Resident BW Chatterbox!
  • *****
  • Showing Appreciation 9
  • Posts: 520
  • Location: Lincolnshire UK
Re: when did you know it was mpi? help! pg 4
« Reply #53 on: October 25, 2013, 07:14:48 am »
It takes a couple of weeks hun for it to work its magic. See how it goes. Keep a diary on feeds and vomiting see if a pattern emerges.

Offline Hedgehog17

  • Resident BW Chatterbox!
  • *****
  • Showing Appreciation 71
  • Gender: Female
  • Posts: 3697
  • Location: UK
Re: when did you know it was mpi? help! pg 4
« Reply #54 on: October 25, 2013, 09:19:28 am »
Glad you've got a supportive GP  :)

ITA that it's the transition causing the vomiting. Also if they haven't fed much before then their little tummies need to expand if they are now taking more  ;)

Vibes that things improve as it sounds like you are on the right track  :-* :-*

Offline babybarr

  • Resident BW Chatterbox!
  • *****
  • Showing Appreciation 224
  • Posts: 12873
  • Location: Hampshire - UK
Re: when did you know it was mpi? help! pg 4
« Reply #55 on: October 25, 2013, 21:03:28 pm »
Rang the dr as they can't settle today cos they keep being sick... she has suggested using gaviscon in their bottles - so trying that now too. ::) 
LAURA xx




Offline *Liz*

  • Resident BW Chatterbox!
  • *****
  • Showing Appreciation 394
  • Gender: Female
  • Posts: 16629
  • Living beyond
  • Location: England
Re: when did you know it was mpi? help! pg 4
« Reply #56 on: October 25, 2013, 21:23:45 pm »
At this age you don't need to worry about flavour - simply about what is the right milk for their tummies  :-*.

And yup, neocate costs a bomb, but if they need it then they need it and it will be prescribed.

(((hugs)))

Offline babybarr

  • Resident BW Chatterbox!
  • *****
  • Showing Appreciation 224
  • Posts: 12873
  • Location: Hampshire - UK
Re: when did you know it was mpi? help! pg 4
« Reply #57 on: November 01, 2013, 18:12:35 pm »
Liz would the neocate help reflux?

So here we are... started nutramigen noticed a difference quite quickly BUT now they are vomiting loads since starting it.  Gaviscon hasn't helped a massive amount and they are constipated :(  10 days in and now they are unsettled and unhappy again.  I don't know whether it's formula or reflux.  The weird thing is we weren't having vomits like this before the nutramigen - but maybe it's to do with age ???

Am going back to gp but want to have some idea of the best thing to ask for... meds or neocate??
LAURA xx




Offline Lolly

  • Bottle Feeding, Discipline and Socialization
  • Forum Moderator
  • Resident BW Chatterbox!
  • *****
  • Showing Appreciation 318
  • Gender: Female
  • Posts: 11223
  • Location: Neath, South Wales
Re: when did you know it was mpi? More help needed please
« Reply #58 on: November 01, 2013, 18:21:54 pm »
If it is MPI causing them to reflux then on neocate they should be vomiting less because the reason for their bodies refluxing has gone. However many babies have a degree of reflux due to immaturity of their digestive systems so they could still be vomiting the thin milk back up anyway IYSWIM. Have you though about using a thickener like carobel (providing it's milk free, I *think* it is) instead of gaviscon?

Gaviscon doesn't do anything for the acid, it literally is just a thickener so it may be that they need to move to the neocate to remove all trace of milk proteins and/ or trial some meds. Ranitidine is usually the first choice.

Laura


Offline ZacsMumme

  • Resident BW Chatterbox!
  • *****
  • Showing Appreciation 425
  • Gender: Female
  • Posts: 23962
  • You complete me
  • Location: NZ
    • Tomi & Roo Boutique
Re: when did you know it was mpi? More help needed please
« Reply #59 on: November 01, 2013, 18:26:18 pm »
Laura could it be a GS? Or, if Nut is as thin in consistency as neocate it will come up easily.

Neocate as far as I'm aware (liz may know more) is given more for the LOs inability to tolerate normal formula or Breastmilk. This isn't just for allergies, but things like eosophigus encephalitis. It is prescribed here for reflux but usually when it's identified reflux isn't the cause, but a symptom of something else and can not be controlled with medication or alternatives.

How is their weight gain?

I know it's not as easy as this but I would ask for a specialist opinion if you can be refered ASAP and see what they suggest. Meds such as PPIs and h2blockers dont stop vomiting remember they just reduce stomach acid. I'm wondering if a thickener could help - or if it would make things so much worse :-\

Posted with Laura
***Sara***
https://www.facebook.com/tomiandroo


DS1 - Our sensitive soul. Silent reflux.

DS2 Our cheeky chipmunk. Reflux, MSPI.