Any radical ideas for clock change

[barbaraz78]

Hugs Creations! What about to stick to 6.30 bt regardless wu time, for a week or so avoinding, if possible, napping? This would make him ot for sure, but hopefully this otness let him moving wu later...

[michaeljacknnugg]

Boo hiss!!

Yes, I would be tempted to do what Barbara suggests.

[creations]

Thanks. I was going to do 6.30 tonight because I'd hoped WU would have been closer to 6am this morning - but now I'm tempted to do 7pm again.  He won't nap today because he won't have a chance (it's a 5 min drive home this afternoon but it's highly unlikely he will nod off, if he does I'll wake him the second I stop driving).  Tomorrow Granny is coming to visit so it would actually be a bonus to have the later BT so he gets more time with her as she doesn't visit often.  There's a risk of him nodding off in the car tomorrow based on our driving times but I won't let him continue to sleep if he does.
He even knows the time changed on the clock (starting to understand about time and can read the hour and half past so there's a tiny bit of understanding there that things have changed) and knows that he is sleeping less because the clocks changed, but clearly he can't do anything about it, if he wakes up he wakes up - and once he is awake he needs a wee.  This morning after he got up to wee he went back to bed and was trying to stay quiet but I heard him saying he couldn't get back to sleep. So he is trying to shift.  I prob shouldn't have let him have that 30 min in the car yesterday.

[michaeljacknnugg]

Hindsight only gets us into hot water! As DS gets older I've had to let go of more and more of his sleep, and it's so hard. I just have to think that it's my job to offer bedtime and his to get enough sleep - but it doesn't really help at stupid o'clock in the morning!

[Buntybear]

Wow, he knows his times? Olly is only just learning them! He is a clever little fella 

Sorry for the early start. Good he tried to stay quiet though, at least he is resting. x

[Aishi]

Dont know if this helps or will suit ur ds but think our los Are similar in age, dropped nap around same time and lsn?

I was doing long 14h Days with set bt for ds which obv led to ot...he did come out of it but Like u know dls set us back...nap didnt work to extend day so I kep day at 11.5h Ish yesterday and he sttn 5.45 -5.45 cos Not ot i think. Did 5.45-6 day today so Fxd will do 12h Night.

Dyt pushing fwd like this will work for ur ds? i just know that the ser bt and long days led to awful ot even tho it did push Bt fwd but Took three months!

[creations]

Wow, he knows his times?

He can read the o'clock and sometimes half past. But I don't think he really understands how long an hour lasts yk. He can just about understand "in a few minutes" or "shortly" that sort of thing.  It's a small level of understanding about the clock change, he can explain it but prob not really get to grips with it. He's always asking what time it is, staring at the clock as though he feels he should understand more than he does   We never tell him what time BT is so that we can change it!  When he works out what time BT is I'm going to be rumbled on giving EBTs!

My OT is setting in now too.  I know there are a number of other clock change threads, clock change is just STUPID. Raspberries to it.

[creations]

I was doing long 14h Days with set bt for ds which obv led to ot...he did come out of it but Like u know dls set us back...nap didnt work to extend day so I kep day at 11.5h Ish yesterday and he sttn 5.45 -5.45 cos Not ot i think. Did 5.45-6 day today so Fxd will do 12h Night.

Sorry Aishi, I think I'm missing something or don't totally understand. Are you suggesting I give DS an 11.5hr day?

[Aishi]

Lol.aye worked for.my ds yesterday and hes really lsn and doesnt tack.....wdyt?

[creations]

I'd have to put him to bed at 4.45pm and he'd be awake 5.15am or earlier

[Aishi]

Eek. Yea it worked for us cos Ds woke at 6.20 one morning...hmm would he resettle if he woke earlier than 5??

The other radical Thing that Worked once for.us was when Ds had a lonnng nw 3-5 he then slept past 7...could.u see urself trying that on purpose and then keep day short so 7-6.30 and see.if that helps?!

[creations]

lol That is pretty radical, I don't know that I'd have the guts to wake him in the night and keep him up a couple of hours, but who knows...it might come to it!
We actually had a few long NWs a couple of weeks back, one crazy late WU time which threw me, when it was all over he went back to 6.30pm BT and 6.30am WU (might have been a slow WU from 6.15am before getting up at 6.30 to wee) so even the long NWs didn't make a permanent change to his body clock.

I am going to have faith that set BT at 7pm will eventually lead to a later WU. It has to work. It has to.

(btw Aishi I think your LO is younger than mine, almost 2yr 10 months here)

[barbaraz78]

It has to work! Hoping with you it works.

The other radical thing that I could think, if this doesn't work, is to make a nap day letting him sleep a relatively long nap, and then putting him to bed at 9 or 10 pm. Then a 5 am wu would be impossible...and if he wakes up at 5 he has to go back to sleep. I would only do it if everything else doesn't work as a reset of his body clock though...

[creations]

Good idea Barbara.  If we get to a week or 10 days on this I might try that because honestly I'm not really up for months and months of this, if it was just us then perhaps but DS needs his relationships with other people and they can't all fit in to a very early day and BT pattern.

10hrs 15 sleep last night (7 - 5.15) barely a disturbance, couple of noises pre midnight with easy self settle.  How can he not be OT after about 5 days of 10 hr nights!!?? He needs 11.5 or more like 12hrs sleep per day and isn't getting it.  He's not even having OT melt downs or tantrums in the day!
I'm not totally sure what happened this morning. Up at 5.15 for sure, went wee, but after that, hmm, he fidgeted in bed a bit, but I think he might have nodded or dozed a little, maybe, maybe not.  Could be a good sign.

[michaeljacknnugg]

My guy is so like that. Short nights one after the other, and then when you're so fed up of thinking 'surely he can't carry on like this?' he throws a long catch up night. Drives me a bit bonkers, but seems to work for him.