Nap problems after transition to bed 28 months

[creations]

hmm, don't know could have been a one off catch up nap.
If you feel he does still need a nap though I'd pick a set time, even if it is different from what he was previously doing and just stick with it for a week at that time.

WRT very short naps at home, I wouldn't have done it but I think I read someone went down to a 10 min nap at home before dropping all together so it is a possibility. Although I haven't done it at home my LOs mood is actually much better after a micronap than a long nap now.  The grump goes within minutes rather than hours.

[Kalan]

We tried doing a nap with a set time but that didn't work. He would either go to bed late or not at all… Yesterday he didn't want to nap but then fell asleep in the car for about 10 min on the way home…. we did a BT at 6:30pm and he woke up numerous times. On top of that he woke early at 5:30am but resettled and slept until 7:20pm.

The days he has a nap he won't go to bed until very late and then still wakes up at 6:30am. The no nap days he goes to bed no problem but then wakes crying at least once right after going to sleep and sleeps until 6:30/7:30am.

I don't know what to do… His days are becoming too long with a nap and it doesn't seem like he is handling no naps well

[creations]

It really does sound like he wants/needs to go without a nap even though you're getting an OT WU after BT.  By the time you spend a few more weeks fiddling around with his routine he might have grown into that NND BT and stopped the OT NW anyway, sometimes just consistency is needed so they can get in the swing of things.  It sounds like the NW isn't too bad, am I right?  Just a quick resettle?  Is it usually at the same time (say 40 min or 1hr into sleep)?  You could try a w2s if it is regular enough.
And perhaps the odd night with an even earlier BT, like 6 or 5.30, with your usual BT at 6.30?? (I gave mine a 5.45 BT yesterday to help him catch up as his mood has deteriorated and he has a cold, won't nap of course, but took BT without question, 2 cry outs which just needed some soft words to resettle him and otherwise STTN).
What do you think?

[Kalan]

It sounds like the NW isn't too bad, am I right?  Just a quick resettle?  Is it usually at the same time (say 40 min or 1hr into sleep)?  You could try a w2s if it is regular enough.

At first it was just the one NW about 40-45min after he's asleep. Recently he has woken a few times every 45 min. He usually sits up and cries and I go in rub his back for 5 minutes at the most and he goes back down. He's also waking around 5am sometimes chatting, sometimes whimpering. I haven't had to go to him in the morning though. We've tried w2s in the past but he seems to be a light sleeper and it just wakes him.

And perhaps the odd night with an even earlier BT, like 6 or 5.30, with your usual BT at 6.30??

We could do that. Today he didn't want to nap but with such a short night last night we did a 6pm BT and we will see how it goes.

[creations]

Hope the EBT was successful for him.

[Kalan]

After EBT he woke up twice crying but resettled quickly. He did however wake up at 6am and then was completely miserable by 11am

[Kalan]

Last night he woke up multiple times all night and he woke at 2am and got out of bed! Last night he only had 11hrs sleep.

[creations]

how many NNDs in a row now?
Do you think he will take a nap tomorrow, perhaps a short one if you are concerned about BT?

[Kalan]

3 days in a row. Today he had an hour nap and woke crying. Then he wouldn't go to bed until 8:30pm. He also has his last molars on the move. He will probably wake at 6/6:30am making it another short night.

[creations]

oh dear - not a great deal you can do if molars are moving though other than medicate and hope for the best.  Sometimes they need to sleep more even though their sleep is disturbed with the pain.

This may not help much but I know with mine now if he nods off and I let him sleep any longer than a few mins he wakes crying and really really grouchy for a long time, if I wake him the moment I park the car (it's always the car that sends him off for a micronap) he moans but recovers in 2 mins. I strongly suspect that in the past when I let him sleep longer I would have been more successful if I hadn't iyswim.  Maybe just something for you to keep in mind, longer nap isn't always happier kid...but the temptation is to let them sleep esp when you know they are tired or teething. Hard one to call.

[jenn1975]

Hi Kalan,
I've just been reading all of your posts here, and Creations.  WOW! You and I are in the same boat almost is seems.  It's like I'm reading about my son and about what I have posted on this board right now too.  My son is the same age approx.  We haven't moved him to a BBB yet, but everything else as far as NWs, EWs, BT resistence, etc. is exactly what's going on over here.  Lord help us!!

Our son is going down ok for naps, so that's one difference here, but it seems on days his nap goes longer than one hour he takes up to an hour to fall asleep at BT and has been falling asleep around 9ish lately as well, much to my horror! 

When he wakes he wants to pee he says, or wants water.  I'm not sure what the heck is going on, but almost all of the ladies who are helping me, Creations included, have agreed that this is a phase.  A very ugly, what in the heck is going on, when will it ever stop, phase!!!  Good times for us huh?

We took him to the doctor today to check his ears and molars.  He's perfectly fine.  Nothing wrong. No signs of molars at all.  None have come in yet.  Even more good times.  Yay!!  They haven't even started to break through.

All of this fun stuff began about 7 weeks ago for us.  You as well?

I look at my son everyday and wonder how he's managing on so much less sleep that he was getting. 

Just wanted to send hugs and also let you know you're not alone.  Before all this started we had a champion sleeper. I can hardly remember I'm so tired.

Hang in there, I will too.  Everyone says not to make any huge changes, like permanently dropping the nap.  I agree with you, though, NND are easier to deal with here too.  No BT resistence, and he sleeps 12 hours!  I am just scared that if we dropped it altogether, he would soon fall apart.

Good luck! I'll be following.
 

[Kalan]

I don't know how I missed your post!

Hope it turned out to be just a phase for you! we are now having nap resistance and some  NND but bedtime has been going well.