routine tweak or leave alone?

[ZacsMumme]

Mumm we had those WU too with the nap dropping really. it could also be developmental. You could offer a CU nap, but be wary she could be up late

Daycare does ware them out though earlier nap if she would take it on those days maybe?

Do you keep her in bed till 6?

[*Becky*]

we keep her in until 7am mainly because H gets up then and I don't want to disturb him and also...well it's just much nicer
I think she did go back to sleep this am so I guess she is a bit OT when she wakes early - she ended up being happily in bed until 7.15am?
Today was a NND as my parents were over for lunch and she was not going to be missing anything - spirited little monkey. So 6.30pm BT it was and fingers crossed for the am.

[ZacsMumme]

How was her night Hun?

[*Becky*]

she had brief waking at 10.30pm but slept until about 6.45am so really good
did a nap yday and 7.30pm BT and we had a brief waking sometime in the early hours but not too bad on the whole. Maybe 1-2 NND's per week are the way to go?

[ZacsMumme]

They certainly worked for Z. He did 1-2 nnd a week for months and it worked well. I just found a new pattern YK, so based on WU, or the day, or if we could do EBT, or behavior would dictate the nnd. That said I often did nnd on sat as DH was home and we could take him out all day then do a loooonnngg WD including tv on the couch

[*Becky*]

I'm back! Sorry, I am being a bit rubbish here as failing to make a decision about what to do with Miss M. So she continues to wake pre 6am....or around 6am. She is happy enough until 7am but I would like to try and work on the routine rather than rely on the gro-clock and she does wake H.

So, what plan sounds best.
1. Cap nap to 1.15 with same BT of 7.15pm - do this for a week to see?
2. Push BT later to more like 7.45pm but allow 1.5 hours as atm.

I can't really do any NND's because she is up too early for them and is tired by nap time...she still falls asleep easily at nap and BT.

What do you think? Any other good ideas?

[koe2moe]

I am leaning towards cutting nap but follow her lead on bt aiming at the same but if she can't cope with the shorter nap, then bt 7:15!   Would she cope with 1h nap do you think?  That can significantly reduce day sleep and just do earlier bt, like 7! 

[*Becky*]

I think i will try 1.15 for a week and see if it makes any difference and then maybe go for 1 hour. She does not like to be woken. So keep to 7.15BT and do a 1.15 nap. Will keep you posted and go from there. Thanks koe!

[koe2moe]

If she doesn't like to be woken, even try 1.20 nap.  fx

[*Becky*]

not sure that will make enough difference tbh...what is weird is that she settles straightaway for BT and within 5-10 mins for naps so she IS tired...maybe it was UT causing some OT..who really knows.

[koe2moe]

In that case, she shifted her own body clocks that way.  Do you want to shift Wu time then?  I wonder if all you need to do is shift nap time??? 

[*Becky*]

I can't let her sleep past 2.50pm ish as that is school pick up x

[koe2moe]

I see...  Fx this week. X

[ZacsMumme]

I was wondering about a slightly earlier WU as an option of nap and Bt are difficult. You could get her up at 6.30 (even if this is just to adjust her body clock for a bit) then nap a touch earlier and same Bt so longer day. She may then start sleeping till 6.30 iykwim?

[clazzat]

I would wonder if it is worth trying to bring the nap earlier so that she has a longer a to bed and is therefore more tired - if you are convinced that the ew is ut but she is settling easily for sleeps then it might be that the afternoon a is just not quite long enough.  Do you think she would fall asleep if you put her down earlier for her nap?