Routine change with 16mo??

[Eva's Mummy]

Just wanted to pop on to say i wrote a very similar post when Eva was 16 months old. Naps and BT went crazy,we had crying, NW's just wanting cuddles it was a nightmare. It lasted about 10 days then it just stopped. At the end of it she needed an extra 30mins A time so we went to this:

WU 6:30
S    11:30 - 13:50
BT   7:00

If she happens to sleep later than 6:30 which is a rare occassion / sometimes earlier we do 5hrs A time each end as apposed to set times other as she just cant go longer without short napping, NW.

[ZacsMumme]

Could it be sa or teeth Hun? - it's a developmentally crazy period. Is he trying to talk?

[Me.and.my.two.boys]

He doesn't say much but is defo trying - says 'hiya' about 100 per day and occasionally says dada but just yesterday started saying 'dinner'

Possibly SA - doesn't seem to be teeth as it is only at nap/bt

Just had a NW at 9.50pm - I think it was me that woke him when I was upstairs to the toilet but he was screaming. I lifted him out and he settled but screamed when I put him back down and continued to scream as I tried to settle him in his cot. I ended up giving him milk! I don't know what else to do?

[ZacsMumme]

Bad dream? They start having nightmares around this age I think. Fwiw I'd do the same thing

[Me.and.my.two.boys]

I do not know what's happened? I think developmental here but mixed with SA? He woke at 1.30 and I have him milk as he wasn't settling, he cried out a few times between then and 3am when he was shouting/crying so I went in and he said 'hiya' and seemed wide awake. I tried to settle him for 30 mins and each time I thought he had gone to sleep, one tiny noise and he sprung back up shouting 'hiya' and if I wasn't right there next to the cot he started crying I caved and gave him more milk but he's just cried out again so I'm assuming he's finished it and still isn't sleepy?

I'm so tired

[ZacsMumme]

Ugh....well believe it or not tonight we have had SA chatty Bt shenanigans too! Sorry but I did giggle a little with 'hiya' were getting 'shhhh' with the finger on the lips

When we have this nonsense (ie now ) I tend to mix up riding it out and adjusting the routine so ill prob push A 10 mins and spend the extra time doing a longer snuggle, read etc and hope for a better night.

What is his total A time in 24? I think you prob need a min of 10 hrs A ...

[Me.and.my.two.boys]

His total A yesterday was 9.5. I would try and push to 10 today but he slept in this morning because he was up during the night and I let him because I was so tired

Yesterday was
WU 7.30
S 12.30-2.30
BT 7

Today
WU 8.30
I'm going to try and aim for 1 - 2.45 nap and then 7.15 BT. I know that's only 9A but I don't know what else to do after a late wake up?

Ideally I'm going from this starting tomorrow
WU 7.30
S 12.30-2.30
BT 7.30
Maybe with a little tweaking?

I'm not too sure what to do for the NW's? Just sit next to his cot until he falls asleep? I don't want it to become a habit?

[theu.s.lees]

Have you thought about doing just set nap times instead of looking at A time? Both of my kids around this age seemed to need that set time instead of A time. When we started doing S's nap at 1pm instead of coating A, things settled down a lot. We then capped her naps. Of course, if it's a rough night and she wakes up early or something, I adjust a little bit, but more by 15 minutes or so. It may take you a little bit of time to get to that set nap time, but it may be a good goal and help you worry less about counting hours and such.

As for NW. Are they regular (at the same time each night) or sporadic? Is there teeth involved or hunger? S went through a GS around this time along with teething. We started really working to pack her full of food during the day. For her NW we would settler her, and shh when she'd cry out and then sneak out. Sometimes it meant lying in her room for 10-15 minutes or longer (especially if we fell asleep). It was hard not to just give her a bottle, but in the end she out grew the waking and we didn't cause any more bad habits.

[ZacsMumme]

Neyssa very good point about food too! Our last bout of NW stopped when I put more food out for t.

We have a set nap time too, I guess I mean total A as most toddlers this age will need a min of 10 hours total A a day to have a. Good night sleep. That's a 12 hr night and 2 hr nap (whenever you choose to do the nap etc) I have to wake T in the morning if he sleeps in too much or cap his nap a little if he sleeps in or he fights BT. Both my boys needed help regulating a little YK? - otherwise our days got later and later x

[Me.and.my.two.boys]

Eugh

NW at 9.30 and would only settle for milk, cried again at 10.15 and I managed to settle after 20 mins of cuddles

OT? We went for 10A today for the first time

[ZacsMumme]

Give it 3 days and see how he is, could be SA\developmental or maybe a bit of OT getting  used to it...
What did the day look like?

[Me.and.my.two.boys]

WU 7.30
A 12.45 - 2.45
BT 7.30

He seemed to cope well and there was no BT battle but the 9.30 NW pretty much lasted for 1.5hr there. I think he's back to sleep properly now. I'm just hoping that's him for the night. My alarm is set for 7.30 tomorrow to try and stick to the new times!

On no I can hear him chatting

[Me.and.my.two.boys]

Oh he's crying again and I just want to sleep!

[Me.and.my.two.boys]

BT battles tonight! Sara is T still having trouble too?

Just had a NW at 10.15pm - screaming! I had to take him downstairs and get medicine and milk. He seems to have settled back down - I'm hoping he stays down but I doubt it

[Me.and.my.two.boys]

Today looked like

NW 4.20-5.10
WU 8.20
S 1-2.20 (first time in months he has had an short nap )
BT 7.30 after lots of crying
NW 10.15-10.45 ended up giving milk and more meds

I don't know what's going on?!