Author Topic: help for today-ew & set times  (Read 12293 times)

0 Members and 3 Guests are viewing this topic.

Offline Aishi

  • Resident BW Chatterbox!
  • *****
  • Showing Appreciation 105
  • Gender: Female
  • Posts: 6363
  • Location:
Re: help for today-ew & set times
« Reply #120 on: April 02, 2014, 12:04:26 pm »
Also wanted to add that i know that time taken to sleep varies with los but dd has always been consistent with that even now if i pd at correct time for nap or bt she will fall asleep within 5-10 mins and has done since tiny. If its taking her ages to sleep and shes singing/ chattering or shouting then shes ut and if shes quieter and singing, chatting or whining then shes ot. If that makes a diff...
aishi :)

Offline jessmum46

  • Resident BW Chatterbox!
  • *****
  • Showing Appreciation 411
  • Posts: 14235
  • Location: UK
Re: help for today-ew & set times
« Reply #121 on: April 02, 2014, 12:28:15 pm »
More hugs lovely :-* sleep is such a stress isn't it? 

A couple of things jumped out at me from what you said, just clutching at straws but will share in case any of it helps.  You deserve your sleep!

First one was when you said if she fell asleep late for nap you cap nap and do later BT.  For us that's always a major error, we never move BT later, only ever earlier or J gets OT and struggles to settle.  So if set BT is 7pm, I would always cap nap short enough so that I could put her down for 7pm and she'd be tired enough (not that I get it 100% right.....) to sleep.  So if she falls asleep between 1.30-2 I generally wake her at 3, if she didn't sleep until 2.30 I'd let her have until about 3.15 but no later.  On the odd occasion she's slept really late e.g. car nap at 3/3.30pm I make it a short catnap only.  And if she's shattered we have the option of bringing BT forward, but not pushing it later.

Second one was about set nap being a joke because nap length varies so much.  My understanding of set nap was not that it's a set length, but that you put down at the same time.  So the time the nap starts is theoretically the same, but some days LO will take a shorter nap and some days a longer one.  Some days she'll take longer to fall asleep, same at BT, but nap and BT are still 'set' if you see what I mean.  If she really needs it on shorter nap days you bring BT forward.  If your gut tells you she's OT by BT most days though, then perhaps your set BT needs to be a bit earlier? 

If she's in her bed chattering and not falling asleep does it worry you?  Other than the fact she might be OT or UT depending on exactly what she's doing, we've had much more of this in recent months whereas usually J was like your DD and would be straight out if I get the timing spot on.  To be honest I've given up on trying to work out which way wrong I've gone!  So I just accept that she's in her room having quiet time,  and I get on with eating lunch/doing jobs/having some quiet time for me.  Could you do that?

My only other thought was perhaps she gets into a bit of an UT/OT loop spanning a couple of days?  I think this is what happens with J.  So it's not uncommon if J has a good nap (1.5h for us) followed by a good night, that she will either take forever to fall asleep for nap the next day or not nap at all. I'm guessing because she's had enough/more than enough sleep.  But then obviously next day is OT from the NND.  So it can be a bit of a wonky nap day and take us a couple of days to get back to a 'good' nap.  And then we go round again.   

Wish I had a magic wand and could sort it out for you though hun, I'm sorry if none of my thoughts help xx

Offline Aishi

  • Resident BW Chatterbox!
  • *****
  • Showing Appreciation 105
  • Gender: Female
  • Posts: 6363
  • Location:
Re: help for today-ew & set times
« Reply #122 on: April 02, 2014, 13:11:23 pm »
Thanks katherine. I really do appreciate youre trying to help. Sorry if it sounds like im putting up obstacles! !

when i said later nap = later bt its not cos i pd later but cos shes ot already and takes longer to fall asleep even if i pd at set bt yk? it doesnt bother me per se when she chatters sings in bed except when i know shes ot cos ot means nws and ew and then shes a handful (fiercly spirited) so when shes tired shes just so much hard work and everything and i mean literally everything is hard work  :( its why im so desperate to fix this!

I know set times work for most toddlers but just not this one. I was looking at older posts and i started set times in dec and despite all the blips i have been consistent (as yourself,.Becky and Hena insisted i need to) i just thought that by now set times would have 'set' for her. We had a period when set nap at 1 was giving good naps but i realised that wu at 6.30 meant she was having 6.5h a time.which is what gives a good nap so when she woke later she was ut for that nap leading to ot by the time.she fell asleep.

I always felt set times wouldnt work with dd but i was tired of chasing a times so i gave them a go. Its been 3 months. I think i have to go back to a times...but thanks for all your help. I know you javr a lot on yoir plate atm and i appreaciate your help :-* if you ever get that magic wand put me on your list!
aishi :)

Offline jessmum46

  • Resident BW Chatterbox!
  • *****
  • Showing Appreciation 411
  • Posts: 14235
  • Location: UK
Re: help for today-ew & set times
« Reply #123 on: April 02, 2014, 13:49:59 pm »
Lol will do!

6.5h A sounds like a good plan, I guess looking back she always did pretty well with quite precise A times didn't she?  Fingers crossed she'll settle into it soon xx

Offline HenaV

  • Resident BW Chatterbox!
  • *****
  • Showing Appreciation 39
  • Gender: Female
  • Posts: 2249
  • My shining light
  • Location: Northamptonshire, England
Re: help for today-ew & set times
« Reply #124 on: April 03, 2014, 11:42:57 am »
Please offer your support here:

Magic a times??

Thank you  :)