Up for the day at 4:45.

[Sarah - Enfys' Mum]

So Medi has been up since 4:45 - woke for a feed, fed her, she didn't settle and at 6ish she pooped and now she's up. What do I do today?  She's five months old.

[*happy*]

O gosh. :-\that's just too early-for everyone.
Does she take a proper feed at that time?
What about giving the DF another go?

[Florena49]

I can sympathise, our day has started at 5.15 for the past week. I dont know shat happens At 4am but he wakes regulRly at that time and then very difficult to resettle

[ZacsMumme]

Ugh gross! Z did these nutty EW till we dropped the CN. It was a nightmare.

What's her A times like? For us it was a need to push A but because Z couldn't quite move to 2 naps till closer to 6 mths we had weeks of EW from the CN

Oh, and today...play it by ear and try EBT if she tack on? If not and if these are reoccurring you prob need to shift the day

[Sarah - Enfys' Mum]

It's totally the cat nap messing her up. If we have a reasonable wake up, and if she naps well, she can do a two nap day. But the last couple of days, she's not napped well, and she's had a cat nap.  Her a time is very close to 3 hours, 2 hr 45 in the am, then 3 hrs. If she's napped well.
I think I will have to dream feed her. To be quite honest, I got up to the bathroom at 3 am and I was very tempted to feed her then. Maybe I should have. :-/.

[ZacsMumme]

You could see if w2s works instead of a df?!

[Sarah - Enfys' Mum]

I actually did do w2s with this morning, at 3:40. And she woke up 70 minutes later.  It was two hours after I'd put her down from the first feed. Her first wake is very inconsistent, anywhere from 23:00 to 2:00 so I don't think I could do w2s for that one.

She's been napping now for 75 minutes, it's 9:10. I think I am just going to have to try not to let her cat nap if I can get her through.  I try to keep her bedtime to 19:00 but I guess tonight I will have to put her down at 18:00.  I wouldn't mind a 6 am- 6 pm day, that would be okay. Just not 4:45. That's not human. .

[Sarah - Enfys' Mum]

Well it wasn't too bad in the end. She napped from 8-10, then I tried for 1 pm but it was 1.30 when she got to sleep. I woke her up at 3:15 and she was in bed for the night at 6:30. We had a weird early feed at 9:15, she was very hungry. Then 2 am and she woke for the day at 5:55. I can handle that! 
I think the cat nap is going to have to be gone now. She's needed it to be gone for a while but couldn't stay awake for three hours, but it seems she can now

[ZacsMumme]

Hugs it's a rough transition really. I think that night looks good...5.55 is much better than 4 anything!
We had to do quite a few EBT and longer As than we liked which did cause OT but OT nw are IME easier to resettle than UT.

[*happy*]

Yay!that's def a step in the right direction!
Maybe keeping the last A super-low-key would help?

[Sarah - Enfys' Mum]

Well it was 4:55 this morning and no way could I get her back to sleep. I fed her, gave her calpol in case it was her teeth.... At 6:15 I gave up and took her for a walk outside in the baby carrier. She might have slept for half an hour. 8 am now, I'm feeding her and it's anyone's guess really what I do next . Anyway, yesterday was like this
Wu 5:55
S 8:50-10:30 (I woke her)
S 13:45-15:15 (I woke her)
Bt - put her down at 18:20 but she fussed and didn't fall asleep till 18:50.
Nf 1:30
Wu 4:55

[ZacsMumme]

I'm trying to remember what we did...I think I discounted any WU before 6am. So like you did, keep her in her room, lights out and then at 6 walk out then back in all 'morning!' Like.

Then I counted A from them with no nap before 8.30am. (So 2.5 hrs A min)
Day would then be like this
WU 6 (ignoring ew)
A 2.5
Nap 8.30-10/10.30 (I let sleep as long as he liked for both naps to 2 hrs) - encourage long naps or try to resettle.
A 2.5-2hrs45mins
Nap 1/1.25-3 ish (again up to 2 hrs)
Bt 6/6.15

I know it's a Long last A but it's inevitable really, and I think you can't push the first one much more at this age with the ew. when you get a later WU you do have to push the a As though, so first one a little, then push the entire day out a little later IYKWIM. For us a few weeks of this and eventually the boys readjusted into a later WU and Bt and the CN was gone

[ZacsMumme]

Ps if you can't get through the day without a CN then go for a 20 min one.

[Sarah - Enfys' Mum]

Well it's the third one now. She woke up at 4:50. Quite happy, chatty, for half an hour, then started to get a bit upset. So I brought her in with me to see if she would feed lying down and drift off. Nope. Twenty minutes later she's pulling on my dressing gown, laughing, joking. So she's back in the cot now, still blowing raspberries to herself.
So it's looking very unlikely that she's going back to sleep.
I'll leave her now till 6 and then get up. So it's no nap till 8:30?  I can do that. I gotta break this habit somehow. I can't carry on like this.

[ZacsMumme]

I think you have to push through. - keep with treating them as nw too. I know it sux. Z was a chronic ew from 4-6/7 mths!

If things are really tough for her then you can always try an earlier nap and make that the CN, so 20 mins earlier. Then two decent naps later on. (Ie CN 8-8.20, nap 10-11.30/12, nap 2.45-4 prob have to cap one nap...BT 7)