Anyone want to talk about the 2-1 transition #26

[Kellyjs]

Hi again Missy,

I wouldn't recommend it tbh with your easy. But it really depends how your LO handles OT? We've done a few one nap days but have had to go back to two every now and again. It's just part and parcel of the transition period I'm afraid. With your wu being as brilliant as it is, I wouldn't want to jeopardise that if I was you. You could try and push your first A by 15mins and see if your 1st nap gets longer? The aim is really to get a good 2-2.5hr nap in so they can get to BT working off a 12-hr day. OT before bed ends up in night wakings I'm afraid normally!! And you don't want those if you can get away with it. I would extend first A by 15mins at first for a few days and let him sleep as long as he wants then try for a 20mins CN around 4ish if necessary. If he won't go down do EBT.

Let us know how you get on! And welcome to this thread!!  ((Hugs))

[babybarr]

Did any of you attempt to go cold turkey with the transition and push your LO to 1 nap a day with early bedtimes? 

I went cold turkey with ds1 - he would consistently refuse the catnap and so we just bit the bullet and did it.  Personally I think if the catnap is causing an issue then it's worth a shot.

My boys did 30mins at 3.45pm and were asleep by 6.55pm so we'll see what tonight brings!

[gb18]

Hi all! Sorry not been on here for a while. Good to see people are managing to get a few 1 nap days.
We have been doing pretty well too. Mahaged 3 days in a row of 1 nap days, then ew so 2 naps but that led to horrendous bt of 8.45! Luckily slept ok so last 2 days also 1 nap.

Swimming tomorrow smack bang when nap would be so somehow have to get 2 naps, might struggle as D hates to sleep unless properly tired iykwim!

Kelly sounds like things are going well!

Missy I have found D has cope surprisingly well with quite a quick transition. Not gone cold turkey but like marcias baby I find ebt really hard to get so after a few nightmare days with no pm nap and some nw I pushed A bit quicker. As D generally had good wu time this was a bit easier. If u have rotten ew then harder.
Hope I have not jinxed us, know there is a still a long way for D to go to fully transition.  He starts nursery in 2 weeks tho and this had been my motivation as sure they r never going to be able to get him to sleep!! Anyone else have this issue? Xx

[MissyD]

Thanks for the responses!

We had a pretty decent day today, thankfully, so I might try to slowly push out our morning A times and pray for a longer afternoon nap.  DS2 usually does ok with OT (before our 2-1 transition began) but lately I feel our wacky nap schedule has caused him to not handle OT well.  Hopefully if we can get him into more of a routine, it'll get better and I can slowly try for a 4.5hr A time. 

Just wondering, how old are your LOs who are doing the 1 naps?  I remember DS1 transitioning around his first birthday.  DS2 is 10.5 months right now. 

[gb18]

Hi missy. D is 11 months old today! I kept thinking he was too young but when I look back now I realise that his 45 min naps when he was younger was probably all due to him preferring higher than average A times. Or at least I think that is the case.

What is your EASY?  D started shortening pm nap, then after a week of fab long am and pm cn he started refusing cn, therefore I tried short am and long pm but with is really hit and miss. Sometimes perfect but mostly 2 short naps. If it is just 1 day he can ususlly tolerate it.

What has been the specific issues with your lo?

[MarciaMSPT]

Ah... whirlwind... my LO seems to want the cold turkey 1 nap a day BUT, no early BT for him - he just won't do it (well, once a couple weeks ago)!  So, having to watch OT very closely and believe he is teething again... what timing! 

Stormed awful at 5am this morning... I imagine he had fitful rest till 6:30 when I heard him cooing and 6:45 when he was crying... very cranky and tired even by 9am this morning... figuring he's tired but wanting to try to get him to 11:45 for first nap... made it and still asleep.  Not sure how long he will be done.  Rain is done (even did a backpack walk with him in the rain... he loved it - of course!)  sunshine is out.  So we'll see what this afternoon brings... he's an outdoor baby and gets bored inside...but I have to admit that there's not much new in the toy department here either... time to bite the bullet and buy some new things for him to engage in...

He's very close to crawling or walking or both and thus very frustrated that he can't get from point a to point b... but over all... I can't complain... would like to but really, it only sends my mind into a negative mindset...and then the day goes down hill from there.  So... thankful for each day and for a healthy baby boy!

[Kellyjs]

Hey gb18, O is 11 mo old today too!! And I had exactly the same issues with 45 mins naps! Hindsight is a lovely thing isn't it?! I think that's probably why O can handle being OT.. She's been UT her entire life!!

Good luck with pushing the A missy. I'm sure it'll work out fine. O isn't handling OT as well on this 2-1 transition as she used to before but it's not too horrendous, she says   . The main problem I've found is that there's no set routine anymore. Just like gb18, we do 3 days of 1 nap days then she is awful the next day and either we have EW or she can't handle the long A. It hasn't been too bad as those times she's happy to go down at a decent hour to fit in 2 naps with a 13-hr day.

Marcia, well done for managing to get him to 11.45! I think we're teething too and I have a feeling the one yr molars are coming early  . Do you have charity shops or car boot sales there? We picked up tonnes of great nearly new toys from there for £1-5!!

We've done another 1 nap day today even after a 5.30am wu (got up at 6.15) Figured the earlier naps weren't helping in that department even if she is OT. So I pushed her till 11.15 today and we got a 2hr 15mins nap. BT was at 6.15pm. Think she's just gone off to sleep. Here's hoping we get later than 5.30 tomorrow am!

[Kellyjs]

So it seems our new wu time is 5.30  . I'm wondering if she's just had enough sleep or some OT is creeping in? It was a solid 11hr night with a 2hr 15mins nap so I'm thinking she's ok? She happy enough to hang out in bed for half an hour or so so I'm unsure if she goes back to sleep.. Didn't yesterday but unsure about today as I went back to sleep!

Any ideas how I can shift this new wu time later?? Cheers x

[gb18]

Rubbish about the ew Kelly. Afraid I have no solutions. D had a period of ew a while back and I can't really remember how we ended fixing it. Think maybe a slight increase in A and also fed him and put him straight back to bed one day. Seemed to just reset things a bit.

If she handles OT well have you tried a later BT? Know u run the risk of OT but might just do 11 hrs still (fingers crossed no NW). Just a though as D has sometime managed 6 hrs till BT and had a good wu time.

D has had a couple of 2 nap days, just to fit in with day to day plans really but ended with late BT as just not able to settle. Def been UT. Just hard to get a second nap at a decent time iykwim.

How is everyone else doing?

[gb18]

Forgot to say how cute our lo's are born on the same day Kelly. A coincidence! Hope you are looking forward to her 1st birthday xx

[babybarr]

I'm bailing!  Nothing good to report here atm!  HOWEVER they definitely do better at night with less sleep overall in the day, but it soon catches up with them...

[MarciaMSPT]

Seemed to be doing so great on one nap and pushing A time a bit so not such a long A time before BT and a 10 min car nap if needed...yesterday was glorious ----  but then 4 NW last night and a temp of 101.6 F   Fed him two out of the four times, medication and gum numb as well.  Just going to let him sleep this morning instead of getting him up at 7am for WU and getting started with the day... I may regret it but the little guy is not feeling well and wondering if we are facing the 1 yr molars as well... first birthday is June 21st.

So, I'm wiped out today... along with the hubby who had to go to work early this morning... praying that the weekend catches us up somehow and that we can get back on track again soon.  Not sure what that looks like anymore, though!

(((Hugs))) to all!

[Kellyjs]

So sorry to hear your LO is poorly Marcia. Big ((hugs)) to him and you! Hope you get some sleep in after that rough night.

Also not too good news about your two Laura. Hopefully they'll settle into some sort of a routine they're happy with for a bit to give you a breather.

And gb18.. I know exactly what you mean about the two nap days. It just becomes impossible doesn't it?

 I might try a later BT when things settle down a bit. I really don't know what's going on atm. She was so super grumpy this morning I nearly gave in and out her down at 10am! To back track a bit, last night she finally fell asleep around 7. Went to check on her at 7.30pm to smell she'd done a nappy  had to wake her to change her then it took me another 45mins to get her back off to sleep! She did wake at around 5.30am again but think she went back to sleep?? Up at 6.25am. Managed to get her until 11.10 but it just seems we're going backwards. She woke at 1pm so a reasonable nap, but do I bite the bullet and try for another nap or do EBT then risk the earlier morning again?! What I need is for the clocks to move forward again then we might be on the right track!!

[Kellyjs]

How's everyone getting on? Is your LO feeling better now Marcia?

I was absolutely amazed yesterday. We had O's christening so there was only a chance of a nap first thing around 9am. She had around an hr which was great considering all the noise of everyone getting ready etc. tried to put her down around 3pm when we got back but she refused that as we had a house full of people I presume and it was all too exciting! She was in such good spirits all day until people stared to leave! We had her down for BT at 6pm and she slept all the way up to 6.45 this morning!

I put her down for her nap at 12, but I probably should've gone later as she's starting to wu now by the sounds of it!! Oh well, the sun is shining and that always makes the day better! X

[babybarr]

was absolutely amazed yesterday. We had O's christening so there was only a chance of a nap first thing around 9am. She had around an hr which was great considering all the noise of everyone getting ready etc. tried to put her down around 3pm when we got back but she refused that as we had a house full of people I presume and it was all too exciting! She was in such good spirits all day until people stared to leave! We had her down for BT at 6pm and she slept all the way up to 6.45 this morning!

We're on the third day or so of afternoon nap issues... I don't know if it's OT or UT anymore!  I can ap naps in the buggy or car so it'll be the buggy in the garden today but it's getting annoying!