Anyone want to talk about the 2-1 transition #26

[Martini~]

Florena, we have the same so I am curious to hear some answers!

[BusterB]

Not strictly a 2-1 question but ere goes. How tired is your LO close to their nap? os needs a long A time to get a decent nap, and to keep him going i walk around with him, else he might fall asleep! He is not very mobile, i suspect it would get easier when he starts properly crawling? And how do u go about driving and going places, Os falls asleep so easily in the car, so im trying to hold on to 2 naps for as long as possible.

I have a nightmare sometimes with this Florena - the car and pram are guaranteed ways to get my son to sleep so we have to avoid for the 2.5 hours before a nap, as he would easily fall asleep & do an UT nap from this point!

This means we have been within walking distance of home for almost all of the last 6 months... I have posted before how much it got me down at times.

To keep him awake for a long A I just have to keep changing rooms and activities at home.

Today we were taken for lunch by my parents and it was a disaster for us nap wise, as he did 2 x 20 mins in the car each way and that was it for the day. There are times my Mum gets frustrated that I isolate myself & don't 'do more' but it's just not worth it!

[Florena49]

Yes we are the same here, last 20min or so have to change activity.
os is 8.5 months and we are on two naps, in fact second pm nap is messing things up for us.
We have always been out and more so now that the weather is good. I always make sure he has his first decent nap, quick feed and out we go and then drive back when he is die a second nap. I think thats why in holding on to the second nap, its just so convenient.

[Kellyjs]

Hi all,

Wow, been away for a couple of days and lots has happened on here!

Viktoria - mine is exactly like yours.. She needs to be practically falling asleep standing up before I could get a good nap out of her! It does get easier when they're older as you can distract them with a variety of things like books etc. now I just give O a change of scenery and it helps. We always go out into the garden for a play around now the weather is better. When we were on two naps, we did the same as you and did the longer nap at home then went out and about and it didn't matter if the short nap was in the car. Now when we do go places she tends to have two short naps in the car, one there and one on the way back. Then the next day I just make sure we're at home to get in her nice long lunchtime nap. It is a pain sometimes, but I'm not one that needs to be out every day. I'm with Busterb on this one.. It's just not worth it!

Hi green007 - we're definitely on one nap 99% of the time. We do 6hrs first A, 2.5max capped nap, then 4hrs to bed. O has always liked a short A to bed and this I've found through trial and error stopped the early WU's after BT when we first transitioned.

Great news Marcia! About the nap and the crawling! Exciting!

Kbh75- I'm not sure how long it'll take for your LO's nap to lengthen tbh. Your LO sounds HSN due to the fact he kept the long naps for so long! Personally I'd push that A slightly to see if he'll sleep longer, it worked for us to lengthen from 1.5hrs. That time you got 2hrs, I'd work on that same length of A and see if that works firstly. And try to keep to a 12-hr day max at the beginning to give him chance to catch up with a lie in if needs be. Keep us updated though!

We had a manic few days away for O's birthday. She was just amazing and I'm so proud of her. We went to a huge house party for a friends anniversary too and there was a disco and she slept through the lot! Mostly happy, sociable and being her wonderful self. Considering we were away for two nights and it was all rather stimulating, she went down for naps and BT like the little angel she can be! Walking is coming along too, don't think it'll be long at all until she's walking all the time, think she just needs to slow down and stop trying to run everywhere!!!

[BusterB]

Awww Happy 1st Birthday O!! So glad you had such a great time Kelly!

[Green007]

Kelly...my DD is awake 5h before and 5h after but she keeps waking earlier and earlier everyday so our day is starting earlier and earlier and I don't know how to stop it Yesterday she had a 2.5h hour nap from 12:05 to 2:35...and was in bed at 7:30...but woke at 6:44 Last week we were doing 9pm-9am...then each day for the last 7 days the wake up gets earlier and earlier. Any ideas on how to stop this? We are at our summer home on the east coast until June 26th...then back out west (with a 3 hour time difference).

Just wondering if anyone has any ideas on how I can stop her days from starting earlier and earlier...below is her week schedules...

Arrived here Saturday night. She napped only 20-30 mins the entire day of traveling. The night we got in, she slept 12am-9am

Sunday/Monday were the same
WU 9:00
Nap 2:00-4:00 (napped til 4:30 on Sun)
BT 9:00

Tuesday
WU 8:30
Nap 1:30-3:30
BT 8:39

Wednesday
WU 8:15
Nap 1:20-3:20
BT 8:15

Thursday /Friday were the same.
WU 8:00
Nap 1:05-2:55/3:00
BT 8:00

Saturday
WU 7:30
Nap 12:35-2:33
BT 7:30


Sunday
WU 7:00
Nap 12:05-2:35
BT 7:30

[Kellyjs]

It's a difficult one green007, some baby's natural circadian rhythm is around 7-7. However, if that doesn't work for you it might be worth to keep trying to push the day forwards like we do with daylight savings. I think there's a sticky about that somewhere on here.. I'll have  a look for it and come back to post the link. My ipad has a habit of losing my post when I open a new tab 

They say the 5hr either side if the nap is ideal, but some like more one side than the other like O. Is yours ok at night for example? Tbh it sounds like it's working pretty well if the 2hr nap is consistent. You might have to push out the times slowly when you do the gradual shift in the days times so it doesn't mess up all your great hard work to get here!

Found it! How to Adjust to Daylight Savings

Hth xx

[Green007]

Kelly. Thank you! I know, it's a rough call hey? Maybe she is just adjusting to the the change and you are right...her circadian rhythm is just early So I'm not sure if I should push her morning A time today to get to a 12-12:15 nap time or keep it at 5h A time...putting nap at 11:50 ish and BT at 7. Ugh. It was going so well for a few days...those 8 and 9 am sleep in's were quite something!

[Kellyjs]

I'm jealous! O has never ever slept in till that time!

It's up to you as to what you think she would handle. O always adjusts to the daylight savings straight away so we never get a lie in anyway! Strong body clock that one 

Problem might be if you push the A time, she'll want to sleep longer for her nap. Then if you wake her at the 2-hr point she might be grumpy? Otherwise if you let her sleep longer, you could get to a later BT but I'm betting she'll still wake up earlier than you would like.

[Green007]

Ugh. So she was up at 6:44 today and was a complete mess by 11:00 so I put her in to sleep. I want to cap at 20 mins...but when would I put her back in again?

[Kellyjs]

Oh dear, it's still getting earlier isn't it? Yep, I'd have done a capped nap for around 15mins I think. Then I would pd 30 mins after her usual nap time. But you haven't got a usual nap time have you? Erm, not sure really perhaps about 2.30/ 3pm ish? Then perhaps you could get to a decent BT (for you!) of 8ish if she pulls a 1.5hr nap? Then maybe a later wu hopefully?

[Green007]

Yeah. She was supposed to nap at 11:45 ish but couldn't last...so I capped it 15-20 mins. I'm thinking it was 17-18 mins...I woke her at 11:30. So I should wait 3 hours u think? I was thinking 2...but maybe I just have to watch her and see? Ugh.

[Kellyjs]

What happened in the end? It'll be good for you to record it for future reference in case you need to do two naps again. It does suck though doesn't it? When I need to give O two naps, I let her have 10-15mins in the car around 8.30-9, then I know I can out her down about 30-40mins later than her usual nap time and get at least 1.5hrs. It's just so difficult when they decide to want to sleep at 11! Messes up the day 

Xx

[Green007]

18-20 ish minutes. Up at 11:30. Back in bed at 1:45. Slept 2-3:30. Which is wonderful but now I dunno what time BT is. She usually does 5hours after her nap...but 8:30 seems too late. 7:45-8 perhaps?!

[BusterB]

This is something that throws me a bit, because if baby needs 5hr A I don't understand how you can do an earlier BT? With my son, it's the A that matters not the time on the clock... we have ended up with 9pm BT and 14/15 he days on occasions as anything earlier from a shorter A would be UT.

Would your daughter actually sleep at 7:45-8 Green007 or would she not be UT?

I ask as I get the impression my son is unusual here as EBT work so well for so many!