Anyone want to talk about the 2-1 transition #26

[debo620]

We are about the same today Green007

we have been pretty solid on one nap but LO woke earlier then normal this morning (7am), and then fell asleep in the car while I was one my way home (not my intention) at 10:55 so I thought I might as well run some more errands and came home for a late lunch at 12:30, let her play a bit and put her down at 2--2:15 and she still isn't sleeping.

[Green007]

I'm not sure if she'll go with a 5 hour A time or not...after being awake since 6:44 and only a 1.5 h nap as opposed to the 2h. How lovely when we have absolutely no idea hey? I just keep thinking if she were up at 6:44am and only did 2 hours of daytime sleep combined...than an 8:30pm bedtime would make for a long day for her. So I'll try 7:45 ish and see how she responds...just don't want her OT cause 5am WU's are rotten!

She had A LOT of activity time this AM though..spent like an hour in the jumpy house with her brother this AM...so I'm thinking/hoping that's what caused her melt down 50 mins before nap time. Who knows!! Ha.

[BusterB]

Hehe...  Sounds like she will be nice and worn out so I think that aim of 7:45 is a good one! Hope you succeed!

[MarciaMSPT]

Hey Debo, Green and BusterB... EW are the pits!  I haven't had any in quite a while... but I'll keep my fingers crossed! 

We've been a solid one nap as well until today his 12pm nap was only about 1 hr and 10 min... hope that's not a trend he's going to start setting.  So I did a 10 min power nap drive in the car... then we went over to some friends where he showed off his crawling skills for about an hour or so... went down at 8 with a little fussing but not much... was pretty tired I reckon!  Hoping the night goes as well as they have been lately!

He wakes at 7am...   or I wake him then... either way we are up around 7am.  His nap starts around 12, not earlier and sometimes a few minutes later than that but maybe on by 10 or 15.  I've learned that any waking up before 1:30 requires a 10 min power nap drive BUT the timing has to be right... he's got to be tired enough to fall asleep and it can't be too late... t-r-i-c-k-y for me anyway! 

I think his new skills of crawling and cruising now are causing his little brain to over fire   and he has a hard time settling back down into first gear for bedtime.

OK... just rambling at this point...sounds like most of us are in the same boat.  My LO is very fussy for the last 3 weeks... getting better but I'm having to work on letting him fuss for a bit.  Is that hard for anyone else or just me!   May be growth spurting to at 12.5 months?  He's eating me out of house and home!   

Oh, BusterB... EBT never works for our little guy either... no way!  He'll drop like a ton of bricks at 8pm sharp but not until then if we put him down early... I might work up the nerve to try EBT another day... but for now, nothing is too terribly broke yet

[debo620]

Our two nap day resulted in not so great night

so she napped 2:30-4 yesterday and bedtime was 8 except that she didnt fall asleep until 8:15 which would be ok if she wasn't awake at 6 this morning, I fed her then and I think she went back to sleep but only from about 6:20-7, awake again at 7, so I left her until 7:45 and we started our day then..

Im going to push through to one nap and try for that at noon..I would really lim her to be napping at 12:30 most days because I feel likes it too long until bedtime but I don't think that will work today.

[Florena49]

Uh this 2-1 is painful, 3-2 wasn't this painful at all, it just happened and I was pleased for that.

So about a week ago Os wanted a bit more A time it coincided with our travels to see my parents.
We had 2 1 nap days but the nights are as bad as with 2 naps.
So this is what today looked like:

6.50 wu eat
11.20-1.25   4.30
4.05-4.20.  Pram             2.40A
6.55BT.                   2.40A

I was debating whether to do a second nap or not but as the 1 day nap was yesterday thought i better stick it in.
Honestly the nights here have always been bad so thats not much of a problem( well it is, but one thing at a time) but the problem here is after BT he wakes 20-25 minutes later and cries and after that every 10-20 mins for some time. And this only started about a week ago, im at loss i have tried different things different last A time but the same outcome.
First i though OT, but besides the first A increasing second nap hasn't changed and A time hasn't changed either, so not OT then? The short nap messing things up?

[Kellyjs]

Hi all,

So sorry you had a yucky night deb, it does sound like it's going in the right direction though? We had that same waking early when we first transitioned. That's why I ended up going down the set nap route.

It does sound strange with your LO Viktoria, are you sure there's no teeth or something going on? Your A times look so similar to what we were doing at the same age, that I'd doubt anything is wrong there..

We're starting to have the playing around at BT again   . Normally it's OT but I don't know why that could be?? She had that ww or teething period last week where she was sleeping 2.5hrs+ for her nap AND pulling a 12-hr night and that seems to have gone backwards again. But her cranky mood has gone which is good. I capped her nap back to 2hrs 20mins again considering she only slept 11hrs last night, but she's still playing around up there after 30mins! Not too sure what to do with this now. Grrr.. Just when I think we're on the home straight...

[Florena49]

Theres lots going on developmentally, overnight he just started moving much more, attempting to pull himself up and nearly there with crawling too. Dont think its teeth, well at least medicating him hasnt made any difference. So im at loss too atm. Tonight it was waking after25 min and then after another 40 min, honestly it looks like he isnt tired enough just wakes and lies there fussing eyes wide open. I guess we will be sleeping together tonight! Snuggles...

[debo620]

I think so Florencia... If I were you I would try to push the first nap out until noon and then eliminate the second nap

[BusterB]

Sorry for those people having a rough time with NWs - they have been the bane of my life recently.

I seriously hope I'm not counting my chickens, but we've had the best couple of days & nights in a while, but by rather unconventional means! We now do 2 shorter, capped naps, with slightly less A time between.

The difference has been pretty mind-blowing. Last night my son slept >11 hours straight through, I was stunned - we have only ever had 11 hours twice when he was poorly. I'm sure he is just catching up on the OT, but I felt like a different woman this morning.

It seems that the one long, one short was causing some weird OT/UT vortex! The long A was tiring him but the long nap was stealing from his night. So the 2 x 40m sleeps with less A, seem to be keeping OT at bay just enough & he's nice & tired at BT. Hubby & my Mum have both commented on how happy he is too (that'll be the benefit if a full night's sleep little man!) 

I feel a bit like this is going backwards with regards transitioning to 1 nap, but it is obviously what my baby needs right now. Sacrificing the 'recommended' long nap for a consolidated night sleep wins hands down for us right now. Probably won't last long though as nothing seems to where babies are concerned, does it? 

Really hope you ladies solve your NW & nap issues... it's such a shame we're not all given a manual for our baby when we give birth to them!

[3littlemen]

Yay for you and little man BusterB! I imagine birthing a manual might be slightly trickier than the babe itself... though quite useful! lol

[Florena49]

Wow Buster, funny enough I considered that too because he isnt ready for a 5 hour A time just yet EBT does t work for us and the silly 10-20 minute nap is messing things up, he just isnt tired enough and we had 2 hourly wakings last night! Yay fun! Good job i was allowed i lie in whilst my mum had him....

[Kellyjs]

Omg that's amazing Busterb! It does seem like two short naps obviously suits him, not too great for you in the daytime but I'm sure it makes up for it having that lovely long night! You haven't had anything like that for a while! So pleased you've found something that works and gets away from those horribly long days.

Sucks about those wakings Viktoria. I really hope you find something that works for him soon. If it helps, we did get disturbed nights when O was trying to crawl, it did pass after a couple of weeks.

((Hugs)) to all x

[khb75]

Hi Kelli and all,

A quick update: we are at 8 days of one nap a day (cold turkey). My son (just turned 18mos) is doing well with about 5-5.5hr of A before nap. His naps are about 1.40-2hr and then we have about 4.5-5hr of A until bed time. We have NW about every 2-3 days. Sometimes he will put himself back to sleep or we just go in and quickly reassure him and he goes right back to sleep.  His wake time is between 6:45-7:15am each day and bedtime is between 6:30-7pm. We haven't had too many OT meltdowns and he seems to be getting nicely accustomed to one nap. The last five days his naps have consistently been between 1.40 and 2 hours in length (up from 1.30 max) so I think we'll be able to stretch that out over the coming weeks. Yesterday he woke up about 50 minutes into his nap screaming, in tears, and I went in and consoled with him standing in his crib and told him it's still nap time and he laid right back down and slept for another hour. So just wanted to share our progress. Thanks for the feedback Kelli!

[Kellyjs]

That's fabulous news khb75!  so, so pleased for you! That's also great the nap is lengthening. Ahhh, I love a bit of good news  xx