Anyone want to talk about the 2-1 transition #26

[babybarr]

Yeah I'd get her up if she hasn't settled in 10mins and do ebt.

FWIW with DS1 we ended up going cold turkey to one nap (he was older though) any sort of am nap ended with pm nap refusal so I made his am nap at 11am from a 6/6.30am wu and eventually it moved to 11.30am.  we never really got an afternoon nap, yes he was OT for a week or so but soon he adjusted and it was so much better than trying to get a catnap when he clearly didn't want / need one.  I remember driving around trying to get him to sleep in the afternoon with no joy.  Luckily atm these two are more suseptible to apop!

So tonight for us will either be great or awful... who knows!

Sarah they have actually been much better at napping at the same time which is good, just sometimes one throws me a spanner and unusually it's been H which definitely means something is up routine wise!  The major problem I have is I can't get them to do a long am nap if they've been up since 5am since the day is too long for one nap only.

[Kellyjs]

Well, she fell asleep! Not sure what to do now... If I let her have her 20 mins nap, her day will be far too long as BT will be 7.15pm... 5.30am-7.15pm.

Does anyone let their lo's have a 14hr day or is that just going to add to the OT issue from the wknd do you think?

I hate this transition!! 

[babybarr]

When you go from two to one nap often the day on two naps is long that's why ultimately you end up pushing through but again your lo is still quite little (she says when hers aren't even 8mths yet ) I personally would try putting her down nearer to 6.45 - that's still 2hrs A on a 20min nap.

[Kellyjs]

Lol... Yours are little to start this transition! Thanks so much Laura. I was thinking earlier too.. Hopefully she'll go with it!

Good luck tonight with your two. Hopefully they'll do a decent wu so you can start trying them on one nap soon xx

[babybarr]

Mine had dropped the catnap by 5mths - wouldn't settle for bed.

[gb18]

Well I tried short am, long pm again at it worked!! Maybe just a one off as catching up on so much OT but we shall see.

He managed 3hr 25 after a 40 min morning nap so will try the same tomorrow I guess and see how that goes.

Laura- do u get ew when lo's are OT eg from really long days?

[Sarah - Enfys' Mum]

Well done gb18.

[Kellyjs]

That's excellent gb18!! Hope it goes well today too.

Well we had a result this morning. I woke her at 6.35am! Not sure what to do about today now... I could easily push her to 11am for first nap (usually 10.45) but do I let her sleep 2hrs? That would mean the CN isn't due until 4.30pm or later. She does do well on a short A before bed.

What would others do? Cap the am nap to 1.5hrs then CN at 4ish (this is what we used to do before), or keep moving forward with the tranistion and let her sleep longer for the am nap and if she refuses the pm nap, just go for EBT? I think I'm just scared! She's missed the pm nap before and tacks on. But I'm not sure about letting it happen on purpose!!!

[babybarr]

I'd let it happen and just push on, you don't want to start going backwards but thats just my opinion!

Well done gb18!!

Laura- do u get ew when lo's are OT eg from really long days?

We seem to get ew regardless, the difference is if they're still really tired they'll go back to sleep.

Well our night wasn't horrendous (believe me I've had many worse!!) J slept 6.50pm till 1am (took half hr to settle, gave pain meds as still teething) then woke at 5.20am - I fed him and rocked him back to sleep (took about 20mins) I'm deseperately trying to stop them thinking 5am is wake up time.  He then was woken around 6.30am.  H slept just after 7pm till 4am was fed and took about an hour to settle (again he has teeth coming) and slept till 6.30am so definitely better that we have had.  I'm going to try and do similar today and get them to 10.30am for a nap and see what happens.  Fortunately it's not so hot today so fingers crossed they'll sleep better.

[babybarr]

Ok so my good sleeper H seems to have forgotten how to nap   They did a 4hr A time which they struggled with today - not sure why as when they wake at 5am they easily do till 9am   H woke after 1hr really crying and woke J   J went back to sleep with a pupd, spent ages trying to get H back to sleep... he slept another 20mins to the wake J again So J had about 1hr 50mins and H 1hr 30mins.  Yesterday I gave them a catnap in the buggy in the garden.  I don't want to give up just yet but how do you think it's going??

How's everyone else doing?

[Kellyjs]

Oh no Laura! (Hugs)) sounds like you're constantly running between the two. Still I suppose the total nap time was better than yesterday? I think it sounds like it's going well. At least it's heading in the right direction. 

O woke up after 1.5hrs  so back to a 20mins CN for us around 4 I think. A little disappointed now as I was looking forward to seeing how she does with a one nap day!

[babybarr]

Things are not going well.  I'm confused as to why they seemed fine with 4hrs A time previously and now can barely make 3 without a meltdown   Mum had them this morning and put them down after 3hrs 40mins - both went to sleep fine, J woke coughing after 30mins and woke H, when I got home both were screaming joy.  This is why I can't leave them.  So I cuddled them both (one at a time!) and then they both went back to bed.  J asleep about 12.05 and H 12.10pm.  They'll be hungry now so I expect it'll be a short nap, so I've decided to feed them and then pop into town - they can sleep in the car or buggy then.

Kelly what A time are you on?

Sarah what is medi's now?

[Kellyjs]

Poor you. That does seem really strange about the drop in A. Did they have a good night? It is good they'll go back to sleep though. Once O has decided to get up, there's no going back!

We were on 4.5hrs A first thing. That usually gave us a 1hr 45mins nap I had to wake her from to get a CN in. Lately it's been shortening to 1.5hrs and her wanting to get up! Monday we did 4.5hrs again after the hectic wknd and it gave us a 2hr nap (I woke), yesterday 4.5hrs and 1.5hr nap. Today she woke at 6.10am and I put her down at 10.55, asleep at 11 so 4hrs 50mins. She's just stirred at the 1.5hr mark but seem to have gone back to sleep.

Not sure if to wake her at 2hrs or not!! Got 10mins to decide....

[babybarr]

I'd let her sleep and shoot for one nap... if you wake and can't get a catnap you'll kick yourself!

My boys don't normally go back to sleep I just think they'd been crying a lot they'd tired themselves out! Yes they both actually slept well so even more of a reason to not understand it!  J just woke after 40mins pretty sure he'd been a bit sick (can't see cos I don't turn on the light in case it wakes H!) but his sheet felt wet.  Gave him cuddle and have just put him back down so we'll see.  H stirred at 40mins but is still sleeping at mo. 

[Kellyjs]

You're right, I will kick myself!! I'm going to give the one nap a go 

Problem is tomorrow... We're out for the afternoon and need to leave by 11.30! I might try and squeeze a nap in at 10 and hope all this hard work doesn't go to pot. Or we leave a little earlier and she can sleep in the car.. It's only a 40mins drive though. She'll probably be cranky as hell for the rest of the afternoon  It's all well and good this trying to get a long nap in, but I can't get out anywhere.

After a really good night O tends to get really yucky around the 3hr mark too... I just think it's because she enjoyed the sleep so much she wants to go back for more! I have to push through it as she was a chronic 45-minute napper her entire life before I drastically upped the first A times with encouragement on here. I don't want her to relearn that behaviour iykwim?!

I hope your boys get a decent amount of sleep in xx