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Re: 8mo EASY routine
« Reply #30 on: March 17, 2014, 19:35:15 pm »
Total time was around 20 mins and she's gone back to sleep!
Yay!!! Great result  ;D

TBH I don't feel that an increased A time is on the cards yet but I could be wrong. My thoughts at this stage are that there is another reason for not transitioning at the 45 mins, too cold, or teeth or an illness coming, or gas...
Is there anything at all like that - mind you something the sleep goes first and it isn't clear until a few days later what it was bothering them, ear infection or virus or something and half the time they are fine during A time all bubbly and playful but the discomfort comes at sleep time.
Let's see if she can continue to self settle. Leave her until the end of 'nap time' if she is not crying or calling for you just to see if she will go back to sleep.  If not and it really is short naps rather than teeth etc then let's think about upping A again.

She *can* do long naps so there is no reason not to be able to find a routine that suits her. If however you're a bit fed up of all the tweaking and would rather go with the flow and the short naps then that's up to you. Sleep routines can become rather consuming.
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Re: 8mo EASY routine
« Reply #31 on: March 18, 2014, 09:53:38 am »
Thanks again Creations.

I'll keep it to 4hrs A this afternoon. As you said, if I leave her and she's not distressed, perhaps she'll start to take advantage of being in bed and actually sleep!

Last night was a lot better, few WU's and an odd shout, but nothing I had to go in for  :D

Hopefully she'll get used to this new routine soon and everything will settle down

Thanks so much for everything. I know there's many posts on here that you take the time to reply to, not just mine. Your dedication is truly amazing.

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Re: 8mo EASY routine
« Reply #32 on: March 19, 2014, 07:23:53 am »
Hope the routine settles down for you x


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Re: 8mo EASY routine
« Reply #33 on: March 27, 2014, 17:22:43 pm »
Ok, I'm back! sorry!

Things have been going a lot better, thnk you so much for all your wonderful advice. NW's are now minimal and don't require me to go in there.  :D

Still EW at around 5.30-5.45 but she's content playing in her cot until I go and get her at 6.30am.

Morning nap is now 1.5hrs and I can guarantee it now. So helpful for getting the chores done. You may remember I've only on the odd occasion had more than 45 mins.

Now strange thing is, for the last 6 days she's taken 30 mins naps in the afternoon.... I've moved the A time from 4hrs back to 3.30, 3.15 and 3.45 so Im not sure the 30 mins nap is OT. Or do you think it is?

Easy is now.

Wu 5.45ish Up between 6.15-6.30
E 7 7oz bottle
A
S bed 9.45, sleep 9.50/10 - 11.20/30
E 11.30 7oz bottle
E 12.30 lunch
A
E 2.45-3 7oz bottle
A
S 3.15-3.45/ 3.30-4
E 4 tea
A
E 7-8 oz bottle
S bed 2.5 hrs after wu from nap. (Never more than this now) Latest 6.30pm

She's taking a lot more at her BT feed now, thank you for the advice of moving tea to 4.

I was just wondering if you could see something immediately obvious? She's actually really happy and fine after the 30-minute nap. A couple of days ago I did do an EBT as she was grizzly but that was once out of the last 5 times. Should I just go with it do you think? I'm just so paranoid of just 'going with the flow' then ending up with an OT nightmare like I had before!! It just feels like she's waking up early from her nap so she can go back to bed on time  ::)

I'm also tempted to move her am nap later after the clocks change on Sunday. What do you think? Might help her sleep a little longer and perhaps we can go back to those lovely 7am WU's! Might be wishful thinking  ;)

Thanks again for all your previous help, it really worked well xx  :D



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Re: 8mo EASY routine
« Reply #34 on: March 28, 2014, 08:00:15 am »
YK, if she's fine after a 30 min CN in the afternoon, going to bed well and sleeping well at night, I'd just stay as you are for a while. I know the mornings are early which isn't great but after the clock change her WU will (FX) be 6.45am instead of 5.45am so it will feel better for you.
FWIW my DS has *always* altered his sleep before the clock change, it's quite freakish, there must be something telling him the seasons are changing because it's happened every single time.  He's been waking an hour early for a couple of weeks so we have now 'done' our clock change for him before the clocks have changed. He's asleep by 5.45pm and awake at 6am. He has such a strong body clock that it works better to move BT than to try to move WU.

After the clock change you could experiment with shifting the naps and BT to move WU a little, but if your LO is anything like mine it could be a hard and determined job to get that done.  On the other hand there are many LOs will shift their WU from a later BT so you can certainly try.
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Re: 8mo EASY routine
« Reply #35 on: March 28, 2014, 10:03:51 am »
Thanks again for replying and for the reassurance.

Isn't that funny about your LO?! Clever boy!

I thinking it's going to be difficult to shift all the naps and BT too.. She's always had a strong body clock like yours. Probably why we kept with the 2hr A for so long!

I'll have a look at the link, thank you very much. Guess we'll just see how it goes. This shift in routine took so long compared to the other tweaks I've done, I'm tempted to leave well alone now you think the 30-minute nap is ok.

Thanks so much as always Creations xx



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Re: 8mo EASY routine
« Reply #36 on: March 28, 2014, 11:46:50 am »
No problem.
If LO shows signs of being unhappy with the routine then look at it again. I'd wait until clocks are well and truly switched and settled before trying anything, just based on how mine has always been through clock/seasons change.


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Re: 8mo EASY routine
« Reply #37 on: March 29, 2014, 16:22:18 pm »
And just when I thought it was going well, I go and jinx it by happily boasting she has a 1.5hr nap in the am! Well, not any more!

Back to the 45-minute nap monster twice a day! Normally if she wakes and wants to get up early from her am nap, I absolutely make sure she has a 4hr A before the next nap with the hope of getting at least one good nap a day. For the last two days it has all gone wrong again.

I'm just so, so fed up of this. I know she needs more sleep because if she wakes early from the am nap she is soooo grizzly for the last hr of A before I put her down again. I hate it! I feel so mean trying to stretch her out, but what's the point when she only naps for 45 mins either way?! Sorry for the rant! DH says he doesn't know what all the fuss is about, but then he doesn't get up with her when she gets OT and starts waking at stupid o'clock every morning. Again, sorry for the rant!

I've had a look at so many other routines on here and nothing compares to ours in terms of A length and nap length.

Raaaaaaaaahhhhhhh

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Re: 8mo EASY routine
« Reply #38 on: March 30, 2014, 09:41:24 am »
Did the clock change help today?

Is she teething?


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Re: 8mo EASY routine
« Reply #39 on: March 30, 2014, 12:46:28 pm »
So so I think. Had her in bed last night for 6, she didn't fall asleep until 6.30pm ish, but then she was awake 6.30am (new time). That's not really catching up on missed sleep from yesterday!

Again this morning, another 45-minute nap.

I can't really tell if she's teething to be honest as she categorically refuses to let me look! She's very textbook though so she is due those upper laterals soon. She definitely hasn't cut anymore as she will let me feel.

Going to try again for another 4hr A, but doubt we'll get another decent nap this pm.

Perhaps I let the 45-minute nap go on too long from before and she's just used to napping that long? She's vvv mobile and doesn't sit still even for a minute so I'm so surprised these naps haven't lengthened especially in the afternoon as she must be knackered. I know I am just watching and chasing around after her!

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Re: 8mo EASY routine
« Reply #40 on: March 31, 2014, 11:55:52 am »
If there's a chance of teething maybe just try some meds before that first nap and see if it makes any difference? Sometimes it can help the transition just because discomfort wakes them up in the light sleep stage. Obvioudly if it doesn't help then no point continuing, and if it does help you can only use it a couple of days anyway but it might help you to know the cause of the short naps iyswim.


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Re: 8mo EASY routine
« Reply #41 on: March 31, 2014, 13:43:34 pm »
I think there may be a chance she's teething as she's not happy at all at the moment! Very, very grizzly poor little love.

Had to give her some last night and before the nap this morning. It's not helping with extending the nap unfortunately. I'll keep going and hope the longer naps come back soon. It's just so frustrating when I know she can do it now! 

Thanks for all your help again xx



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Re: 8mo EASY routine
« Reply #42 on: April 01, 2014, 15:30:25 pm »
This child is driving me bonkers! Yesterday she was grumpy so put that down to teething, but thinking she might have just been super tired.

Great night last night, great first nap of 1.5hrs today but for the last two days has completely refused her afternoon nap! She goes down at the 3.75/4hr mark and just plays for over half an hour before she starts crying. By then I know she's OT. Both days have tried ssh/pat for the next half an hour but she just gets more hysterical. Have had to get her up, which makes me feel terrible I've put her through half an hour of crying just to give in anyway  :'( she's always gone down well for naps, it was just the length of them that was always the issue!

She can't possibly be going through the 2.1 transition is she? She'll be 9 months next week.

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Re: 8mo EASY routine
« Reply #43 on: April 01, 2014, 17:00:27 pm »
Yes she could be heading that way.
I would give an even longer A before the second nap and then you might need to cap it to retain BT or let BT move a bit later too.  If she's even slightly UT for that second nap that's when she'll do the chatting and playing but just as you said eventually become OT, missed her window for sleep. How about trying another 10 or 15 mins A?


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Re: 8mo EASY routine
« Reply #44 on: April 01, 2014, 19:08:53 pm »
Damn it, I've seen the posts about the 2.1 ... Doesn't sound like much fun!

We're out for the day tomorrow, so she'll cat nap on the way home in the car. I will definitely up the A yet again for the 2nd one the day after.. Tbh I wasn't too overly concerned about stretching her for that one after the lovely nap this am. Think I just got her down in time for her to have 30 or 45mins in time for BT!

Running out of hours in the day!

Thanks so much as always xx