Ok so my aim is to get them self settling with no holding at the beginning of night and naps. I just did first nap. Both boys together. I can reach them both together cos of the way the cots are. So I stroked j's back (my boys tummy sleep too) and held a hand on h's head. J was crying more. I whacked up their white noise and both boys settled quite quickly after that. I think I'm just going to try and do both boys together. I figure if they wake the other I'll have to settle that one too but hopefully they'll just get used to hearing each other. Night times will have to be done at wkends though cos of o. What do you think or am I completely mad? Also I figure if they start to be able to do it to begin with they hopefully will follow quite quickly with the in between wakes iyswim