I did try a snack after his afternoon nap around 3-330 but sometimes if we are out and he falls asleep in the car I can't give him a snack beforehand. Someone also suggested a bottle at 1130 when he wakes from morning nap and then waiting until 130 for lunch that way I can also get out in between bottle and lunch but I've also tried that and had him fall asleep on me in car way to early and right at lunch time!