Support for dropping the nap part 11

[Aishi]

Well today was unexpected

Wu 6.20
Nap 2.35-3.20 (I fell asleep)
Bt 7.15 (pd 6.50) quickest BT in ages!

Should I read anything into this? Guess it'll depend on the night....

[PineapplePrincess]

Lucky you! I think we are headed toward dropping the nap for good. Today he woke up slightly after 6 and went to bed at 9:15 last night. He took an hour nap at 1:30-2:30. I thought for sure that he would fall asleep much earlier because of the EW. It's 9:09 and he still hasn't settled down. The past few days we have been getting really short nights, like 9-9.5 hours when were were getting 10-10.5 last week. I have no idea if it's the heat or if this really means he needs to drop his nap. The few days he had NND he handled it much better than before and slept anywhere between 10.75-11.5 hours. He gets crabby around bedtime without a nap but at least he isn't falling asleep at dinner like he used to. We are almost at 34 months by the end of the month, so I am happy he held onto his nap till almost 3. I knew it was probably going to go by his 3rd birthday.

[Aishi]

Well she was up by 6 :-/

PP have u tried a late short cn to tide him over to BT? Something like

Wu 6
Nap 3-3.20
Bt 7

Then if he does 11.5h that will give u 6.30 wu and u could push day out slightly so

Wu 6.30
Nap 3.30-3.50
Bt 7.30

It may give u a later a wu...

[PineapplePrincess]

I haven't tried that yet, Aishi. Maybe I will do that every couple of days for a catch up nap. We did a NND today because he woke at 7:30. Usually he is up by 7:15/7:30. I don't know why he was up at 6 yesterday. Just an odd EWU. So maybe if he wakes at 7:15, then a short nap at 1:30-2:00 and usually put down at 8:00 to get an earlier bedtime. Earlier as in the 8's, not 9's or 10's as he has been doing. My guy doesn't need any more than 11-11.25 TS with a nap or without.

I'm thinking that the nap is just more of a hassle these days and causing him to sleep so little at night. That short night sleep really affects his mood. He seems much better with a longer consolidated 11-11.5 hours than a nap and short night sleep. He seems to have a little sniffle too so he might not be himself right now. I'm aiming for an 8:15 bedtime tonight.

[rachsk8]

Interesting reading as always! :-)

Was going to ask if anyone had any ideas to get more consistent ONS apart from set BT? DS hasn't napped in 3 weeks now and does between 10.75-11.5hrs ONS. Even on shorter nights he won't nap but it's a harder day and needs more quiet time. 11.5hr nights are great - the next day is generally pretty good. I see your LO does the same PP - with or without a nap! I put him down a tad earlier tonight so he was asleep by 6.30pm (not in bed at 6.30pm) after a 5.30am WU.

He seems to do the longer nights every 2nd night, when he's really tired.... Maybe I need to nudge BT out a little later? Last time I did that (15mins only) he still woke early. I don't THINK he's too OT... He is definAtely tired (yawns and grizzles and is a bit of a grouch) but none of those crazy OT signs - touch wood!!! Just seems like such a long day for a not even 3yr old!!

[Aishi]

Well nights are getting shorter here :-/ I can't imagine its ut from a 15 min cn when her day is still 12.5-13h long. Yesterday she did

Wu 6
Nap 2.30-2.45
Bt 6.30 straight asleep (if pm a is any longer after cn then she gets ot and takes ages to sleep at BT)

Yet wu was 5.50! Today. Any ideas? I hate pre 6am WUS esp since ds is still waking at 5.30

[PineapplePrincess]

Rachsk8, yeah seems like your LO does the same as mine. There really is no solution I guess. I stick to no bedtime earlier than 8 pm because my LO will get up even earlier if I put down at 7:30. He did 8:15/8:20-7:30 today. I guess on NND we stick to a pretty much "set" bedtime anywhere between 8 and 8:30 so he'll get up no later than 6:45. I do notice that every second day he sleeps a bit longer too. Not sure why. I am going to try and stick with no naps the next few days to see how he handles. I just know not to keep him out in the car between 3 and 5 though. My parents did the other day and he was up till 10:30.

[Aishi]

7-6 last night with ot nws. Why isnt she tacking on to ns? Thoughts anyone?

[PineapplePrincess]

Aishi, does your LO usually do 12 hours total? Just wondering, because I would think 7-6 with no nap is pretty good ONS for most of us, but maybe your Lo needs more sleep. Mine does 11-11.5 ONS with no nap and that seems to be fine for him. We haven't had any OT Nws the past three nights. He is pretty much out cold till I wake him at 7:30. He probably could sleep longer but he needs to be up for school by a certain time.

It's Day #3 and my LO seems to be holding up ok with no nap so far. We'll see how the weekend goes. We need to take him to a street fair on Sunday so I hope he does alright with no nap that day. He did 8:15-7:30 last night which is good for him.

[jessmum46]

I think Aishi's DD has historically been HSN so 11h is probably quite short for her - would you agree Aishi?  Her behaviour is probably a better guide though - how's she coping?  My instinct would be she's gotten OT given the speed of change from her doing good naps to pretty much no naps.  Will she take an early cu nap, say 5h after WU?

[Aishi]

Shes always been HSN. Just before things got messy she was getting 13h TS. She actually fell back asleep yesterday so did 7-7.40. Had nnd yesterday and was asleep by 6.45. Up today at 5.50. Go figure

I hate pre 6 am wus. With ds waking up at 5.30 every. Single. Day. I'm just done with them.

Posted with Katherine. Yea her mood is def indicator. Shes easily riled when ot and has meltdowns at the drop of a hat which is why i dread her getting ot.

She took an early cu nap once but not again.

[Aishi]

She had a 13h day with 20 min cn and did 7-6 last night with few nws.

I'll try an early cu nap at 11 but if that doesn't work, any ideas how I can get more sleep in to her?

[jessmum46]

If she doesn't take the cu nap at 11 I'd get her up after 45 mins or so, and then try again in the afternoon around 1/1.30.  If she doesn't take it try the late CN (can you APOP this?) and just stick with the plan.  I know it can take some kids a good few days of no nap/minimal nap before they realise and start sleeping longer at night.  It may just be something you need to ride out  . You can't make her sleep yk?

[Aishi]

I guess i can't :-/ ive been trying to get her to go back to sleep for an hour!

I'll try the nap at 11 and 1.30. She wont apop but I can still try late cn in cot...

Thanks Katherine! At least its a plan!

[rachsk8]

What was happening if you let her nap longer again Aishi?