Support for dropping the nap part 11

[Aishi]

Welcome to the madness Haribo. Can you stick to whats working and throw in a cu nap once a week?

We still havent got a handle on things the day she had 8am wu I tried to push day out for clock change this weekend and she woke at 6! Still trying to cu she doesnt handle set times we just get shorter nights and ot so im sticking to 11.25 days but wu is ridiculous.it was 5.30 today so im hoping for a cu nap and later bt. Meh

[Haribo2012]

I'm wondering if I should try nap a bit earlier so he's got a longer A to bed! Hmmm decisions ha ha, and I was hoping to start potty training next week so might as well do full madness at once x

[trimbler]

Welcome Haribo!
How old's your DS? Ours started protesting naps around 2 years plus something (??) but still definitely needed them and is still going now - just! Whenever he would start to struggle with his nap we would push it out another 15mins, then he'd get down more easily. We were also quite firm with him about having his nap, he knew we wouldn't give in. We did this because on the rare occasions when he had to manage a NND, he was seriously flagging by 3pm! If BT was suffering we'd shave 15mins off the nap. This worked until we got to 7h A time with 45mins nap, then we went to 1h set nap time so would wake at the same time regardless of when he went to sleep, he has a gro clock so knows when it's time to get up. Nowadays if he's awake when I go to put DD down he'll just get up anyway, which is fine with me, I just think I'll find routines easier to mesh if he keeps his down/nap time until DD has dropped her 4th nap... Which should be soon! Even wondering whether to go CT once that happens and just let him tell us if/when he thinks he needs one???

Hugs Aishi sorry can't advise as have no experience of set A times at this stage, we've done set nap times since the 2-1.

[Haribo2012]

He's 29 months, well today he ended up sleeping for 1.20 mins in pushchair as was out walking with a friend....so guess it's going to be a late BT...might help with clock change I guess lol!
Our naps are getting late in the day if he has one....2pm today x

[My little Liam]

Hello to all! I havent been here for a while. Liam hasn't napped in 3 weeks and the last few days have not been great... We have been doing a set BT of 7pm (it was 630 but pushed to 7 last week getting ready for the clock change) and he is starting to EW and is just tired all day! I think he needs a 10.5hr day, and he does tack on, but not enough. If i do a 10.5hr day he will tack and do 13hrs, for example, but considering the day was 10.5hrs and his night was 13hrs, we are missing a half hour of sleep or A time and as the days go by out WU becomes earlier and earlier. Thats why i thought i would stick to a set BT but it is just not working...
On nov. 3rd Liam is starting at a new preschool, mondays and tuesdays and thursdays 820-4, wed 820-1230 and fridays 820-3 with a 50min nap at 1210 everyday but wednesday. I really doubt he will fall asleep so early so i think the nnd's will be continuing so i need to find some kind of solution with his sleep, otherwise he will be falling apart at school.

[Aishi]

That sounds like my dd MLL. My dd will do 13h nights but nnd can only be 11.25 or she has ot ew but lile u said with short day wu gets earlier all the time. Today it was 5.30!!

let me know if you come up with a solution!

fwiw re clock change im doing something unadvised and radical lol since gradual shifting of day doesnt work wih either of my kids im just going to do late bt with both as dd will still do 11h night when ot. So im aiming for 8pm bt amd fxd 7am wu (6 am new time tho), try for a cu nap (11-1)  and 7 bt to get a more sensible wu as it will still only be a 11h day iykwim? Wish me luck!!

[Nickie18]

Well my 31 month old just started back up on naps again after refusing for almost a month. We kept up quiet time, and then we told him he had to nap to use the ipad and then he started sleeping at nap again... Thank god. But now we have the opposite problem of him napping for too long. I am not at home during the day and hubbie and the nanny let him sleep for 2 hours! And then bedtime for me is terrible (late...) and he wakes at 6am!

how long should the nap be at this age? I am sure we are supposed to cap it...

[Haribo2012]

Well it ended up being 8.30 BT and some apop which I've not done for months but he just wouldn't sleep without me!
I think tomo night I'll just do 8pm BT and hope for 6.30 WU new time then wing it from there!

Nickie...don't know if there is such a thing as how long nap should be....guess it depends on LO, I now know 1.5 hours is giving is a late BT x

[rachsk8]

Well just FYI DS (after sleeping in til 10am yesterday) was getting cranky at 7.30pm so we did 8pm BT. He mucked for a bit but was asleep by 8.45am then not a peep til 6.15am (getting a habitual wake then it seems?)!but went back out again after that til 7.30am - so 10.5hrs ONS after a short day - I couldn't expect more than that! Hopefully he's caught up now and we can get back on track. Any things possible though, thee LO's are sent to confuse us I'm sure of it!

[jessmum46]

Oh my DST throws a spanner in the works!  DD hasn't napped on a regular basis for months but we thought we'd try shifting her BT in preparation.  Did 7pm instead of 6.30pm and she woke at 5.30am then napped 30 mins in the car and refused BT until 8.20pm!  Up at 7am this morning (waited for lights on but may have woken earlier.....).  Ouch.  Thank goodness we're on holiday with my family so they can keep her busy!  Going for 7.30pm tonight so we're at usual 6.30pm after the time change.  Good luck everyone!

[trimbler]

I don't even know what DS is doing with sleep at the moment! He often gets disturbed by us or DD in the mornings when he's supposed to still be asleep but just gets up and it's often easier to let him rather than risk him disturbing DD... Even when he does go back to bed it's hard to tell whether he's gone back to sleep or not, same with naps, he'll sometimes just play quietly in his room waiting for me to go into our adjacent room to settle DD, then immediately get up to play with the ipad! Our only strategy for the clock change is to be more insistent about him staying in bed until the sun comes up on his gro clock, as we won't be getting up early this week - on holiday and do it gradually. I don't think he really needs his nap now but will try for it most days when in this week to try and help with the clock change, then go ct at some point afterwards - which is pretty similar to what we did with the 2-1 in the end. Hope everyone manages to ride out the messiness... Sometime I think that's just what it comes down to!

[Aishi]

Im hoping to get dd to nap at 1 today as she woke at 6 and do an 8pm bt which should get us up to 6am wu if it goes to plan but I know it wont! Lol still doing 8 bt even if she doesnt nap and just hoping she crashes through ot!

good luck all!

[*Becky*]

we are doing similar...hoping to nap M at 1.30pm for an hour and do 7.30pm BT (usually 7pm with nap) and that should get us to 6.30pm tomorrow no nap which is the norm but bound to be flawed!

[Haribo2012]

How was it for everyone? We had a great day and night fri night and yesterday mood was fab, went to bed like a dream at 8pm but had a 1 hour NW then woke at 4am and wouldn't sleep again.....so tired 
Wondering if he's getting a cold as he was so obv tired but just couldn't settle....I'm going to apop him to bed at lunch if it last thing I do today lol x

[Aishi]

Hugs for the rough night haribo. Hope he feels better soon.

We did surprisingly well. She did a 13h night on fri with a 6am wu so I did nap 1-3 (which I wasnt expecting) and bt was 9. She had a few nws and wu was 7.30 new time

ds woke at 5 yesterday and bt was 8. Wu was 5.30 new time- I was expecting it to be 4.30 new time so cant complain here!

how did the rest get on? xx