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9mo will not nap for more than 45mins
« on: May 18, 2014, 01:12:20 am »
Hello all, please help me!

DD was a textbook baby with EASY. 2mos ago, naps drastically shortened to 45mins after a vacation. BT has been brutal this last week; one night she did not sleep till 11:30pm!!! Most days she is already tired after being awake for 1.15hrs so I either ignore it and give solids at 8:30 or feed earlier. In the PM she is soo sleepy 3:30-4pm but I don't know if I should let her CN or ignore it? I have only just read about 3-2 now; is it time for her to transition and how. How can I get her to take the two recommended naps? DD STTN, no NW.

MILESTONES: 2 teeth (do not bother her), crawling/sitting/standing

SOLIDS: 3 x day, 3-4tbs

7am: WU BF
7:30am: A
8:30am: solids
9am: nap (45mins) and awake by 10am or 10:15am
11am: BF
11:30am: A
12:30pm: solids
1pm-2pm: nap (45mins) and awake by 2pm or 2:30pm
3pm: BF
3:30pm: A
4:30pm: solid
6:45pm: BF

Please let me know if there's any other information I missed in order for a full evaluation

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Re: 8mo will not nap for more than 45mins
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2014, 06:58:21 am »
Hi and Welcome to BW

By 8 months 45 minute naps usually stop and often it is just a routine issue.
Looking at you EASY your DD has a very short first A time, if im reading your easy correctly she wakes at 7 and first nap is at 9 that is very early, at this age Awake time is usually around 3.5 hours some are doing more.  Second nap is 3 hours after a short nap amd that is still not enough for your LO to have a long nap, she is just not tired enough.
So my advice would be to start extending those awake times.

How does she settle for sleep? Is she an independent sleeper?
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Re: 8mo will not nap for more than 45mins
« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2014, 14:05:38 pm »
Florena

I will start extending A 15mins per day until I get to 3-3.5hrs.

Up until 1mo ago, she was a great independent sleeper with 4S (minus swaddling). Now, I have to sit with her until she is asleep before putting her in the crib otherwise, she will start crawling/playing/standing in crib and it is a nightmare to get her to nap or sleep at that point. She will put up a physical struggle/cry. Soo tired but just refusing sleep.

I know I have messed up along the way and need help to get back on track.

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Re: 8mo will not nap for more than 45mins
« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2014, 15:50:53 pm »
Thats great that normally she can put herself to sleep, i think te struggle is because she is just not tired enough to go to sleep, but the long battle to go to sleep and all the fighting and crying is making her overtired. Let us know how you get on, hopefully you will find that it will be much easier to get her down to sleep once she is a bit more worn out.
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Re: 8mo will not nap for more than 45mins
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2014, 14:58:18 pm »
Florena,

It's been almost a month and her naps are still around the 45min mark with the exception of a few days where her first nap was 1.5hrs, 2nd nap 1hr. Activity time has been lengthened. I really don't know what to do anymore

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Re: 8mo will not nap for more than 45mins
« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2014, 16:13:35 pm »
Can you post your day in easy format so we can have a look and see if we spot anything.
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Re: 9mo will not nap for more than 45mins
« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2014, 19:48:14 pm »
Hi Viktoria,

This last week has been awful with DD with naps and BT, waking every hour during the night. I know I have a long many weeks to fix my accidental parenting. For quite some time now I have alowed DD to fall asleep in my arms before putting her in the crib. If I don't do this, she wakes up and starts crawling/standing/playing and it will take at least an hour to get her to the sleepy stage.

6:00-7am: WU BF at 7
7:30: A
8:30: solids
9:30-10am: 1st nap
10:30-10:45am: WU and A
11:15am: BF
11:30am: A
12:30pm: solids
1:30pm: A
2-3pm: 2nd nap (going on her cues)
3:30-3:45pm: WU and A
4pm: BF
4:20: A
5pm: solids (at this point she is sooo tired...rubbing eyes constantly, yawning)
6pm: bath
6:45pm: BF

Please help.

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Re: 9mo will not nap for more than 45mins
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2014, 10:27:27 am »
Hi sokha

Im sorry it has been difficult with naps and BT. If i understand correctly your LO is not an independent sleeper? She still needs you to hold her to fall asleep. I think some of your nap issues are to do with this.
Are you wanting to do some sleep training to get your LO falling asleep on her own?

Do you have a wind down routine before naps and BT? i found that very important because that signals to your LO that it is in fact sleep time.

Routine wise, if i read this correctly your A times are 3.5 hours? That is appropriate for a9 month old, but generally if you ate still getting a 45 min nap, A time needs increasing.
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Re: 9mo will not nap for more than 45mins
« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2014, 00:01:00 am »
Dear Viktoria,

I've screwed up royally. Please help guide me on how to retrain DD at 9mos to become an IS again. It would be a dream to be able to do with DD what you have with your DS

What I have done so far since  your post is I have kept DD in my arms until her eyes really do close for sleep and then put her in the crib. What happens though is that she wakes up and sits, crawls or stands so then I leave the room. DD then screams and cries and I come back in and I don't pick her up but place her back down and SP. This can take anywhere from 20-45mins before she falls asleep. Every couple days I have shortened how long I keep her in my arms. Is this a correct way?

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Re: 9mo will not nap for more than 45mins
« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2014, 09:08:21 am »
What I have done so far since  your post is I have kept DD in my arms until her eyes really do close for sleep and then put her in the crib. What happens though is that she wakes up and sits, crawls or stands so then I leave the room. DD then screams and cries and I come back in and I don't pick her up but place her back down and SP.
I think you're going in the right direction but perhaps she needs a little more help when you put her down at first.  Have you tried putting her down and then keeping a hand lightly on her back, to communicate that she needs to go to lie down now and go to sleep?  You might need to stay with her for a bit, but if she's lying the cot and getting herself to sleep, then you're already doing better :) Then, you work on reducing the period of time that you spend waiting with her.  Once she's confident about going to sleep in the cot, things will be easier for you.  It's a way of teaching her the basics of independent sleep quite gently.

This is more of a gradual withdrawal approach, but sounds like she might benefit.  Have a look here for more information, I know it talks about toddlers but I think a lot of it applies to the 'older baby' too :)
Walk In/Walk Out vs. The Gradual Withdrawal Method (HOW TO CHOOSE)
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Re: 9mo will not nap for more than 45mins
« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2014, 14:24:39 pm »
I second Anne, you are on the right track.
Personally i would stop te holding altogether and get her in the cot awake and go from there. And then as Anne suggested reduce the time u spent settling her in the cot.
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Re: 9mo will not nap for more than 45mins
« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2014, 01:24:34 am »
Dear Viktoria and Anne,

Thank you so much for your help and guidance. I will take your advice Viktoria, and place DD awake in her cot. I will let you both know how things go. There is a light at the end of my tunnel  :)

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« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2014, 12:15:02 pm »
Great, best of luck!
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