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Re: extending A
« Reply #45 on: June 16, 2014, 10:10:20 am »
Thanks for your help. Maya is teething now but her sleeping has actually improved. She has slept until 6 for last 3 days and til 6:30 today which is great. Her A in the morning is about 3;45 and her morning nap about 45 - 1h. Im trying to shift whole day to 7-7. Im still working on second nap and cannot somehow get it right, but shall I start limiting her first nap to 45 to let her sleep longer pm?
 

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Re: extending A
« Reply #46 on: June 16, 2014, 10:41:11 am »
Well that is brilliant news, more sleep in the morning is always welcome.

From 2 to 1 nap transition (10-12m and older)

Im on my phone, so cant link properly, if the link above works this tells you about the 2-1 transition, it is not to say that your LO is ready to hve just one nap, but if you are finding that you cant fit everything into one day, you can either shorten the am nap or pm.
If your LO is having one hour nap in the AM and a catnap in the pm you should still have a reasonable day of just over 12 hours.
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Re: extending A
« Reply #47 on: June 20, 2014, 14:08:59 pm »
Hi, LO is having one 1 h nap in the morning, but Im still struggling with second one, Im not sure why she doesn't want to go to bed. Ive tried 3.30, 3.45 and no result, she will only sleep for half hour. She has also started waking up early again, today 5;15.

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Re: extending A
« Reply #48 on: June 20, 2014, 17:14:06 pm »
You mentioned she is teething, early wakings can often occur when LO is in discomfort. You mentioned that you have had sone success getting a later wu in the morning, so whatever you were doing I would just stick to that. Are u getting nap refusal or going for nap ok but getting only 30 mins.

I think you only need a short pm nap to get to BT if she had a proper nap your day would just be too long.
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Re: extending A
« Reply #49 on: June 20, 2014, 18:14:58 pm »
She is refusing nap, but when I finally get her to sleep its already late and she will only do 30 min. I have not change a thing, but somehow she is waking up early again.

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Re: extending A
« Reply #50 on: June 20, 2014, 18:31:50 pm »
We have had a few days of nap refusal here too, if that happens i put him in the pram and go for a walk he falls asleep straight away, for us this is all part of 2-1 transition.
 And after a 30 min nap how long is it till BT?
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Re: extending A
« Reply #51 on: June 22, 2014, 12:27:37 pm »
Lo doesn't sleep in the pram or car seat. To be honest it is a little bit crazy and we don not have 2 days that would be the same. It is always that she will either wake up to early, naps will be ok or wake up ok , but naps are all over the place.
She has also started waking up 1 h after bed time.
I was trying to cap first nap as we ware running out of time in the day, so 40 min first nap but then she only slept for 40 min for the second nap.
Yesterday;
6:30 wu
10:20 s
11 wu
14:15 s
14:55 a
18;30 s
19:30 wu wanting to be held, AP after as unable to calm her after 45 min of screaming

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Re: extending A
« Reply #52 on: June 22, 2014, 21:26:41 pm »
did you want your first nap to be short or your pm nap to be short?

for example this is how our day looks at the moment

6.30 wu
10.40-12.15 nap
4.20-4.40 nap i wake him
7.40 BT

it still makes for a long ish day and we are still trying to figure out the A time before BT, so at the moment Im just recording how the night goes after different last A times.

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Re: extending A
« Reply #53 on: June 22, 2014, 21:56:57 pm »
A before BT is what I need to adjust the whole day to. She never sleeps past 1h so I have not got much choice. Im not sure of anything as Im trying to do all combinations and nothing works plus she has recently started waking 1h after BD and doesn't want to sleep.

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Re: extending A
« Reply #54 on: June 23, 2014, 11:42:22 am »
Have you triedextending A before bed? From the example you gave she was probably ut for that second nap, then ut for bed.  I always found long nws to be ut, even if they were close to bedtime.  Ot nws I can always settle very easily.

Are you trying to keep her day to 12hrs?  There are times as LOs get older that you will have to let the day get longer than 12hrs.  DD2 has had days as long as 13.5/14hrs, exhausting yes, but it is what I need to do to keep her sleeping well!

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Re: extending A
« Reply #55 on: June 28, 2014, 05:45:45 am »
It's not going so well. Nw sorted, but now EW again. I have extended her First A to 3h45, 4h, which resulted to her sleeping until 6-6:30 for maybe 4 days, but now we are back to the ginning. Her naps are all over the place again, sometimes she will sleep for 1 h sometimes for 40 min, sometimes 30 min. the same with second nap, it's not consistent at all.
26:06
4:45 wu 5:15 out of bed ( crying for half hour but I couldn't get up)
9:00 s
9:30 a
1:15 s
1:45 a
6:15 bt

Yesterday
5:15 wu 5:30 out of bed
9:20 s
10:00 a
13:30 s
14:10 a
18:30 bt

Woke up today at 5:10?

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Re: extending A
« Reply #56 on: June 28, 2014, 11:22:20 am »
She actually isn't early waking.  An ew is when LO sleeps for less than 10hrs at night, it looks like your dd is getting about 11hrs at night  :-\  It is her whole schedule that needs shifting.

If you want her to wake later then I would recommend shifting her schedule, kind of like you would do to prepare for a time change.  So you want to move everything forward by 15min for a week, all naps bed and feeds.  Then the second week, move forward by 15more minutes.  If you do this for 4 weeks, she *should* have her schedule shifted by 1 hr.

If you want to tackle the inconsisent naps first then I would just keep working with increasing A time, especially the A time before bed because if that A time is too short you will definitely get night wakes and early wakes.

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Re: extending A
« Reply #57 on: June 28, 2014, 18:34:18 pm »
ok, how do I do this, she already has about 4 hours A time before bedtime and is very tired towards the BD that hardly stays awake for her last feed? EW has improved for a week and she was getting up around 6 which was fine, bT time around 7, naps were around 1h each. Now she wakes up early, naps are inconsistent and last very often 30 min resulting in her being very difficult and tired by 6pm. So without consistent naps Im unable to shift the whole cycle.

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Re: extending A
« Reply #58 on: June 28, 2014, 22:45:24 pm »
If she is tired for bed, then go ahead and work on the other A times.  Just keep increasing one A every few days until you get a good nap, then work on the other A time :)