at my wits end!!!

[kmalbin]

Hi everyone, again!

i am at my wits end with my DS. He will not STTN no matter what i do. He is 16 mnths and has never been a good sleeper but this last few weeks hes been up every hour at least and seems to think midnight and 4am is morning.

yesterday was

Wu 5:30
s 11:30 (1.5hr with Wu 1 hr in)
bt 7:30
Wu 12, 1, 2, 4, 5 screaming blue murder so got him up

day before

Wu 6am
s 11:30 (fell asleep in highchair 2.5hr longest nap ever)
bt 7
Wu every hour and wanted to get up a midnight

he has been doing this for couple of weeks now. We always put him down between 11-12 depending on what time he got up and let him sleep as long as he wants usually 1.5hr bt is nearly always 7

he is dairy intolerant and we've descovered he is also allergic to strawberries

any ideas? He was terrible only a few months ago on 2 naps a day only managing 3-4 hes a time and 1 day he refused his morning nap and that was that 1 nap a day.

i cant work him out :-(

[kmalbin]

Please help??

[kmalbin]

Anyone have any ideas at all?

[kateywatey]

Sorry you've not had any replies. I'm not much use as all I can think of are obvious things like teething or S A causing the NW?? Waking that frequently spells teething in our house. Is his room really dark? When you say he wakes up and thinks its morning does he want to play? Or practice things (so developmental)? Or is he upset? How do you settle him to sleep? Sorry not to be more helpful but am sending lots of sympathy!!

[Truly Blessed]

Hi Honey,

I just want to send some (HUGS) to bump you up.x.

[*Liz*]

How does he go to sleep? Is he completely independent or do you have to help him? Any potential issues like dummy use or breastfeeding to sleep? Or needing you to hold him?

[kmalbin]

Hi thanks for the replies.

yes his room is completely dark as he has a blackout blind, we also have music playing softly so it cant be noises waking him.  He wants to get up when he wakes, pointing to the door saying there, there!  We usually end up giving him some water and then most times he'll go back to sleep once we put him in hos cot.  He wont sleep on us hr needs to be in his cot and hes an independent sleeper.

all i can think is he UT but surely his age even the average 1.5hrr is too short?

[Truly Blessed]

Hi Honey,

Is he going through any developmental leaps at the moment, ie learning new skills. I remember that Sam went through this on several occasions. Often when they are 'practicing' something new their little brains can't switch off (as with adults, we've all been there) and it disturbs sleep. If this is the case, it is just a matter of riding the storm. If you haven't noticed anything yet, it may be something to watch out for.

I see his day is pretty long. I wonder if it would be an idea to shorten his day, and see if earlier bed time will help him sleep through  Sometimes it is better to cap the nap, and go for early bed time. It's scary when you're experience early wake ups, but often it could work out. Advise is often to push the nap out when getting EWU, so LO's don't feel like they can just tag sleep on later in the morning. Then the long morning A times over rides the short afternoon, meaning theoretically LO still goes down early. So something like this:

WU 6 am

Nap 12/12.30 cap at 1.5

BT 6 pm.


If no joy with this ^, there are other things you can try. Thoughts 

Oh BTW it's fabulous that he is such an independent sleeper, so well done on that. I certainly would keep it that way, and not even try to help him by holding etc.

(HUGS)

x.

[kmalbin]

Thank you for the advice :-)

turns out he has a severe chest infection, we were taken off in an ambulance last night with chest retractions and a blood oxygen reading of 93% :-/ hes on antibiotics and ventolin so hoping he will start to feel better soon.

hes not going through any milestones as such, unless talking is one? He talks, ALOT! He repeats absolutely everything bless him.

i see what you mean about the long day sometimes, i thought the afternoon a time had to be around the same as the morning one if they had a good nap but this does make sense.  I know hes been worse as hes poorly but do you think this has been because hes OT from the long days?

even though hes ill hes been so good with it and has kept to naps etc pretty well so i will tweak a little but let him nap as much as he wants until hes better, would you do that?

if it doesn't work what would you suggest? X

[Truly Blessed]

turns out he has a severe chest infection, we were taken off in an ambulance last night with chest retractions and a blood oxygen reading of 93% :-/ hes on antibiotics and ventolin so hoping he will start to feel better soon.

Oh Honey, I'm so sorry, poor little mite, and how scary for you all. TBH I wouldn't tweak anything in light of him being poorly. I would just leave things as they are, because there's no reason to think his routine needs changing if he is poorly, especially if his routine was working before.  If when is well again, he still isn't sleeping as you would like,  just write on this thread again and I will try and help.

hes not going through any milestones as such, unless talking is one? He talks, ALOT! He repeats absolutely everything bless him.

Absolutely! For DS and many others, this is one of the main things that can affect sleep, so also a possibility, but still I refer to what I said before.

(HUGS) and Finger's X'd for a speedy recovery.x.

[kmalbin]

Thank you, it is scary especially when he gets so out of breath so fast 
his routine definately needs to change as hes not been sleeping properly, ever really, its so hard. People always say it will be better when they are 6 mnths, it will be better when their 12 months, the rate were going im going to have to wait till hes a teenager haha!

thanks foe the help and support so far will let u know when were better xx

[Truly Blessed]

Hope things are looking up.x.

[kmalbin]

Hiya, yes DS is pretty much better now :-) he is on a steroid inhaler but were hoping to get him off this next week. GP is leaning toward asthma but they wont officially diagnose until 5 here!

we had one night where he pretty much STTN his day was

Wu 6am
s 11:20 1hr 20
bt 6pm
he woke at 10:30pm then 6am

so i did exactly the same yesterday but we have 6 NW :-(

I've don't pretty much the same again except he wouldn't nap any longer than 1hr :-/  he woke at 10:30ish but straight back to sleep with milk as he didn't drink much at bt.

what do you think of his days?

is there a way to get his Wu nearer 7am? X

[Truly Blessed]

Hey,

DS needs an inhaler when he has a cold, he gets very wheezy, but he isn't asthmatic per se. I hope it's the same for your LO.

TBH I think it's quite early days, and he will still be playing catch up. I wouldn't change things up too much just yet, if it were me. But maybe go for a 7 pm BT if he naps 2 hours.

x.

x.