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How we stopped the night feeds with a 9 month old
« on: December 03, 2005, 11:26:03 am »
Hi

I am trying to get my 13 month old of her night feeds but she is breastfeed not formula. But my son who is now 3 years old was on formula from 7 months after being breastfeed for 7 months because he gave it up. I can remember trying to get my son of formula night feeds and I was diluting his feeds down but when I spoke to my health visitor about this, she told me that was wrong as it is harmfull to his digestive system. What she told me to do instead of giving him a 250 ml bottle of milk give him 200 mls milk and 50 milks coiled down boiling water and take away one of his night feeds and replace it with 150 mls of coiled down boiling water instead and if need be to give him a pacifiar (dummy) at sleep time only. And keep reduce his milk by 50mls every 2 weeks and increase the coiled down boiling water by 50mls after his milk and every 1 1/2 take away one of his night feeds. I took me 5 months to get him off his night feeds and he was also then sleeping through the night every night.
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Re: How we stopped the night feeds with a 9 month old
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2005, 14:46:37 pm »
Hi Alison! May I ask why it is harmful to the digestive system? My thought was it was just a little extra water, what could be so harmful?
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Re: How we stopped the night feeds with a 9 month old
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2005, 17:34:43 pm »
Christine,

Your advice on how to drop the night feeds has been very valious for us!

After one week of implementing it, Anna Krisztina was able to sleep last night from 9pm until 8.30 am without asking for a feed!!

From day 2 I could see a substantial improvement on her meals: she was taking more and in a regular manner and as you said, she is having huge breakfasts.

Thanks again!!! You just made me remember what was to sleep more than 8 hours in a row :wink:

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Re: How we stopped the night feeds with a 9 month old
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2005, 21:07:53 pm »
Silvia- Congratulations!!!!!!!!  :D Doesn't it feel good to get some sleep again?!?!?! I'm glad that my story helped you. Way to go!
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Re: How we stopped the night feeds with a 9 month old
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2005, 18:38:01 pm »
Thank you for this post!  I am hoping to do this with my DS but he is BF.  I will have to try reducing minutes instead, but of course, both watches with lights on them died this week!  Off to get the batteries replaced :wink:

so your three feeds included what used to be a DF time?  just curious the times of the old feeds.  I currently feed my DS at 5:30pm then he usually wakes around 9:30 or 10pm and has recently been up several times in the night (i don't think it's hunger) but I'll usually feed one side again at around 4am.  He's never gone more than 7.5 hours without a feed.  hmmm, anyone BFing that has done this?

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Re: How we stopped the night feeds with a 9 month old
« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2005, 20:56:54 pm »
i may try your method as it sounds like it would work!..and congrats btw!  would i be able to do this with a bf baby...and do u think 6months is too early to try it? thanks
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Re: How we stopped the night feeds with a 9 month old
« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2005, 01:28:47 am »
Cole's Mom - On a bad night, she would feed at 9:30 (old dream feed), 1 and 5.  :shock: For a long time though it seemed that she fed at 1 and 5. (with last bottle of the day at 6:15)

For the mommy's who BF - my only thought is that you could express your milk and then dilute it down and bottle feed the night feeds? My only other thought is that you will have to go the route of just decreasing the time you BF at night, gradually.
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Re: How we stopped the night feeds with a 9 month old
« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2005, 01:55:02 am »
thanks Christine.  My lo won't take a bottle unfortunately.  Used to, but not now.  Another hurdle to overcome at some point :roll:
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Re: How we stopped the night feeds with a 9 month old
« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2005, 02:38:37 am »
For Breastfeeding you can reduce the time they suck on the breast... so if a normal feed is 10mins, reduce to 8, then after a few days to 6, then 4, then 2 & then none... I actually only reduced to about 4mins & then stopped.
The other thing is with night feeds make sure you take them off as soon as the suck is not good & strong.
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Re: How we stopped the night feeds with a 9 month old
« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2005, 02:55:38 am »
thanks Kate.  I've got so many hurdles to overcome right now. Teething, separation anxiety.  I can't wait to get a full nights sleep when he goes to college :P
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Re: How we stopped the night feeds with a 9 month old
« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2005, 03:41:28 am »
thanks - will try this tonight as dd usually gets up sometime between 3:30 and 5:00 am...she shouldn't be tho b.c i started letting her drink out of a straw to get extra bm in this week so her day time calories have to be much better now.
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Re: How we stopped the night feeds with a 9 month old
« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2005, 15:45:45 pm »
hmmm. little man cleared out my post before i hit submit!

should i expect a protest if i take him off early, and if so...just do pupd, patting until he goes back down?  Or in your experience do they just adjust to the decreased time?

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Re: How we stopped the night feeds with a 9 month old
« Reply #12 on: December 29, 2005, 14:50:04 pm »
Hi...

I'm jenni, mom of 9.5 mo. old Pearce who's been waking in the middle of the night for maybe a week or two (lost count since i'm sleep deprived)...since Pearce won't take a bottle, i usually nurse him (10 min is WAY better than 1.5 hours!)...I did reduce the time nursing,(thank you Kate) he squawked but went right on to bed without pu/pd (something i've never been able to do effectively).

The problem, i can see is my attitude about it all and is related to my grouchiness regarding it....  When Pearce wakes up in the middle of the night, it makes ME grumpy during the day so that little things (Baby's teeth grinding, alarm clocks, etc...)really become big which sets things up in a bad way between dear hubby and me.  Mostly, if i would just continue to reduce nursing times, he'd probably learn to go on to sleep because he USED to sleep through the night pretty regularly.

This is something that i KNOW i must change for the sake of peace in our house...it has been MY grouchiness about all this that galvinizes my husband against "teaching a baby to sleep through the night" not the techniques themselves, per se.  At any rate, thanks for letting me say all that...now i need to talk with hubby and apologize for being a bear this morning.
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Re: How we stopped the night feeds with a 9 month old
« Reply #13 on: December 29, 2005, 15:01:21 pm »
Hi Jenni-I totally know what you mean.  I haven't been myself since the night wakings started about six or more weeks ago. I've lost count now because my brain is so frazzled.  Now I'm dealing with a potential 9 month growth spurt so I've been feeding him if it's after 3am (last feed at 7pm) but sometimes he'll stay up 1.5 hours as you said even after the feed.  *sigh*  I want to work at getting him to sleep through but his 4th tooth is coming through and it's all red and swollen and I fear I've been APing for a long time now thinking he's in pain.

Going to wait a couple more days then work on having him go to sleep independantly.  He currently needs my hand on him to fall asleep.  Will do "classic" PUPD hopefully starting friday through Sunday since DH will be home monday and I can sleep during the day.

good luck to you.  I certainly know how hard it can be.  Thanks for letting me vent too, even though it wasn't really a related topic :D
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Re: How we stopped the night feeds with a 9 month old
« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2006, 09:14:42 am »
this sounds great, we'll definitely be trying.  lo has been waking up hungry for a few weeks now.  i've been trying to just give him water, and sometimes this works, but... something like this plan would probably work better.  thanks for posting it!

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Re: How we stopped the night feeds with a 9 month old
« Reply #15 on: January 08, 2006, 15:25:05 pm »
I love this idea.  My boy is on homo milk though. Do you suggest that I dilute the milk?  Is that safe.  And, is the idea that he will start to not like the feeding, get no nutritional value from it?  What turns him off of the feeding?

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Re: How we stopped the night feeds with a 9 month old
« Reply #16 on: January 25, 2006, 18:20:32 pm »
I don't mean to bother you but I am having the exact same problem with my 11 month old baby and I want to try what you tried are you talking about formula or actual milk?  I hate to be a pain but I will try anything......  please help.

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« Reply #17 on: January 25, 2006, 20:21:01 pm »
Hi,

I give AK formula and what I did was that I kept filling up the bottles with the same amount of water (lets say, 8 oz) and what I decreased was the scoops of milk that I put in

- nights 1,2 and 3 was 1 scoop less
- nights 4,5 and 6 was 2 scoops less

and so on

The point of this is that our LO's believe that they are drinking the same thing, but the reality is that they are taking less milk, therefore, during the day they will be hungrier and will eat more and with more food in their tummies, they will need less milk in the night and hopefully they arrive to a point where they don't need to feed at all.

AK never showed any digestive problems by ingesting diluted milk.

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Re: How we stopped the night feeds with a 9 month old
« Reply #18 on: January 27, 2006, 12:23:47 pm »
That's brilliant :) I've just done a similar thing with my 8 month old xx
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Re: How we stopped the night feeds with a 9 month old
« Reply #19 on: January 30, 2006, 11:30:06 am »
Hi everyone,

Thanks so much for posting these ideas! My LO had been waking 3 hrly through the night since she hit the 3 month mark (she is now 7.5 mths) and I have been going crazy with sleep deprivation. For the last few nights I have been expressing and diluting it with water and feeding that to her and last night she only woke up ONCE for a feed!  :D Although initially I almost gave in and fed her as she was waking every 2 hrs hungry and did not like the taste of diluted milk. We stuck it out though and I'm so glad we have as she is taking so much more during the day! Hopefully she'll sleep all the way through soon! I feel like I've got my sanity back - thanks again!

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Re: How we stopped the night feeds with a 9 month old
« Reply #20 on: February 03, 2006, 14:25:51 pm »
Hi, I am new to this website and still reading Secrets of the Baby Whisperer...i wished had know of it when i was pregnant. My 8 month old girl is still waking up 3 times and sometimes more...I have tried a few things, but nothing has worked. She will only falls sleep after bf. She doesn't take the bottle either. The only time she eats decent is between 4 and 5:30 p.m.  I am still trying to get her into the E.A.S.Y. routine....but she still eats before every nap...at this point my husband and i have don't know what else to do.
-She goes to sleep at 7 p.m. after playing w/dad, bath, bf, reading a book and singing.
-She wakes up crying betwee 10:20 and 11 p.m., then again at 1 a.m. and 4 p.m.
- She is up and about anytime from 6 a.m. and 7:30 a.m.  She eats cheerios and drinks water for breakfast,
- bf, naps from 8 or 8:30 till 9:50
- try to feed home made puree soups w/no success. Then we go out running errands or to the park.
- bf then nap from 1 to 2:50
- plays with mom and we read some more or sing and dance
- eats anywhere from 4:30 to 5:30.  Then we go for a ride on her stroller
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Re: How we stopped the night feeds with a 9 month old
« Reply #21 on: February 05, 2006, 05:57:29 am »
I have a 9 month old who has never slept more than 6 hours at night since she was born, and i am also beginning to think "enough is enough"  ;D with that middle of the night feed. Im going to try your method over the next few days and see how it goes. i have tried in the past to offer water instead but she just wont go back to sleep, or goes into a light sleep and by the time i'm back in bed she is crying again.
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Re: How we stopped the night feeds with a 9 month old
« Reply #22 on: February 05, 2006, 12:33:40 pm »
I have a 9 month old who has never slept more than 6 hours at night since she was born, and i am also beginning to think "enough is enough"  ;D with that middle of the night feed. Im going to try your method over the next few days and see how it goes. i have tried in the past to offer water instead but she just wont go back to sleep, or goes into a light sleep and by the time i'm back in bed she is crying again.

Hi LondonGirl. Does your LO nap for long periods of time during the day? I've kind of trained Rosie to have good length but not too long naps during the day (she's 8 and a half months). She has about an hour and a half in the morning and half an hour in the afternoon but she doesn't sleep past 4:30pm. She gets LOADS of physical exercise; wiggling and climbing around the living room during the day so she really wears herself out and she's ready for bed by 7pm. Strict nighttime routine which she loves and I leave her awake in the cot so she learns to settle herself. She's now at the stage where she'll atlk to herself for about 5 mons and then fall asleep.
If she wakes in the night I offer her water while she's in the cot and don't pick her up, just rub her back a couple of times, then go back in after 5 mins if she's not settled and do the same thing. I don't stay with her tho cos that just confuses her. Hope this helps and hope you get some more sleep xx
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Re: How we stopped the night feeds with a 9 month old
« Reply #23 on: February 05, 2006, 16:26:20 pm »
just wanted to say THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by cutting down on the minutes i bf at night i have now eliminated all night wakings!!!..i should say 'we' i could have never done it without you Christine!  i still give dd her df but that's it until 8 am.  i feel like a new person and dd seems much happier too (getting a good night's sleep who wouldn't).  Thanks again - you have made a HUGE difference in our lives!
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Re: How we stopped the night feeds with a 9 month old
« Reply #24 on: February 06, 2006, 11:10:15 am »
Thanks for this brilliant idea,despite the fact my ds is my 5th child i feel like hes my first.!!!
He has woken between 3/4 times a night every night from birth, i also have the added problem that he wont settle in his cot at night so ends up in with me. at 4am every morning he is awake and waiting to play.!!! He has 3 meals a day plus 2 puddings and has 7/8 bottles with 6ozs in each one,though the night feeds i reduced it to 4ozs.
My g.p said hes obviously a hungry baby so feed him.!!! great then maybe he would like to turn up to my house at night.  lol
Myds will not use a dummy so i cant use that option,my other 4 all had them,maybe thats why they all slept from early right through the night.!!!!!!!       :) :) :)
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Re: How we stopped the night feeds with a 9 month old
« Reply #25 on: February 07, 2006, 12:37:39 pm »
hi christine thanks for the advice am going to start this tonight the lack of sleep with tom is starting to get to me . Will let you know how i get on. :) fingers crossed
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Re: How we stopped the night feeds with a 9 month old
« Reply #26 on: February 11, 2006, 23:03:29 pm »
Hello, This is my first time and I sure hope I am doing this right.  I have a beautiful 10 month old girl that I have AP.  My problem is that I "have" to pull her in to my bed and BF her so that she will go back to sleep.  Although she goes down for naps and for the night in her crib.  Around 12- 2 am she awakes and up to date (1 week ) has won the fight.  And ends up nursing in my bed.  My husband says we should stop feeding her at night and let her cry it out.  I am worried that she is hungry and also that I am making excuses for her.  Please help.  What would you do if it was your baby??
Am I being to soft??

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Re: How we stopped the night feeds with a 9 month old
« Reply #27 on: February 12, 2006, 12:43:05 pm »
Thanks for this post.  My DS is 5 and a half months old and is a fantastic independent sleeper - doesn't need me or any other prop - and I know the only reason he wakes is from hunger.  A couple of weeks ago I decided I wouldn't feed him in the night but after just one PU/PD I could hear his tummy rumbling!  Last week I did loads of expressing and topping up of his feeds (he is BF) and this helped extend his sleep for a few hours at the time but hasn't made a permanent difference.  I'm not sure how long he usually feeds for during the night so tonight I'll put a clock in his room and check and then start reducing the number of minutes he feeds for.  I've got high hopes having read this thread - wish me luck!

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Re: How we stopped the night feeds with a 9 month old
« Reply #28 on: February 13, 2006, 11:03:44 am »
It's difficult isn't it? I think I'm finally beginning to crack the night times with my daughter (especially as she's not ill at the mo. Seems to take an age to get back on track after illness) but this thread has certainly helped :)
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« Reply #29 on: February 15, 2006, 14:13:44 pm »
Thanks Christine!
I'm going to start your plan tonight!!
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Re: How we stopped the night feeds with a 9 month old
« Reply #30 on: February 18, 2006, 00:03:00 am »
great thread, i wish i had read it when dd was 6 months old, how is everyone going?

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Re: How we stopped the night feeds with a 9 month old
« Reply #31 on: February 20, 2006, 16:10:13 pm »
great thread, i wish i had read it when dd was 6 months old, how is everyone going?

I'm still getting woken most nights but I'm slowly deceasing the milk so I'm hoping it won't be long. Literally cannot face CC anymore. It's not why had a baby....
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Re: How we stopped the night feeds with a 9 month old
« Reply #32 on: February 24, 2006, 20:12:47 pm »
I just want to say that we tried this technique with DS and it has been a rousing success!!! I had been suspecting that his one night feeding was at least contributing to his awful night wakings, and at 6 months I felt like he was ready to give it up. Especially since I noticed he was waking at the same time exactly, and not eating quite as much.  ::)  For four nights we used three scoops rather than four, and we never had to go to two scoops! Now he only requires attention once or maybe twice a night, and he's not hungry. He's eating much better during the day as well. I'm THRILLED!  ;D
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Re: How we stopped the night feeds with a 9 month old
« Reply #33 on: February 25, 2006, 14:15:22 pm »
still not waking here...at about 5 or 6 she does wake and i do give her half a bf then and then feed her at 8 to start the day - she goes about 10hrs w/o feedng and i am estatic about that!
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Re: How we stopped the night feeds with a 9 month old
« Reply #34 on: February 26, 2006, 02:09:41 am »
Glad to hear that everyone is doing so well!  :) DD is now just over a year. The past three months of sleep have been incredible.  ;D Just beware though, once they start sleeping through - don't feed at night! Around 11 months, Leah started waking once in the night. A quick feed and she went back to sleep. This quickly turned into a habit and then we were back at square one! Just remember, it only takes once and the habit could start again!!!!!
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Re: How we stopped the night feeds with a 9 month old
« Reply #35 on: February 26, 2006, 02:47:40 am »
thanks for the head's up - i know many tired nights that a quick feeding would be ideal and easy to do (only in the moment of course) and it's good to hear that it's definately not worth it and to keep going in the right direction!
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Re: How we stopped the night feeds with a 9 month old
« Reply #36 on: March 02, 2006, 04:47:03 am »
I've started this plan with my almost 8mo - she's bf but will take a bottle now so I started by giving her only bottles in the night (still nurse her for df).  She's up twice a night almost every night and that's just too much for me - she only feeds every 3.5-4hrs during the day so doing the same at night seems silly!  I just cut back the amount of formula a bit on the weekend and I think will cut back some more tonight.  I'm really hoping this helps!  I would be happy with once a night even - my son woke once early in the morning like 5ish until he was weaned at a year, but that was okay.  Right now she feeds at 10:30ish for a df (and she often wakes for this), around 1:30, and around 5.  I would LOVE a real night's sleep sometime! 

Thanks for the idea and I'm really hoping it works here!
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Re: How we stopped the night feeds with a 9 month old
« Reply #37 on: March 02, 2006, 08:34:14 am »
Hi everyone
i've read through all the posts above and I'm hoping someone can help with my dilemma
Olivia is 10months 3 weeks old. She has 3 good solids meals a day.

Our routine, briefly, is:
6.30am wakeup, breast feed, play, walk up to cafe for mummy's coffee
8.30 Olivia's breakfast, then pram ride home
9.30 - 11am (or thereabouts) sleep
11-1.45, shopping, play, lunch, breastfeed, bed
1.45 - 3 (sometimes only 45minutes) sleep
3-6.15 play, dinner (5.30), bath (5.45), breastfeed (6.10)bed

Then the problem starts. Like clockwork, Olivia would wake at 9.30pm and i'd give her a big breastfeed. Normally she would have one wake up at around 3.30am (which didn't bother me) then start the next day at 6.30am. FOr the last 3 weeks, she's been waking up anywhere between 3 and 7 times a night.  I'm not one for letting Olivia cry for more than a few minutes. I pu/pd to settle her but she wakes 20 minutes later. In again, repeat, and maybe an hour later, she's crying again. So you can imagine how frazzled i am right now.

I was given some advice today that i'd like some opinions on. I was told by our clinic nurse to ffeed her at 9.30 as usual, but for all other wake ups, let her cry for 10 minutes before going in, then do pu/pd and leave the room. Keep repeating for up to 2 hours, then feed if she's still crying. 

Is this too drastic? is it good advice? is it worth trying?
please help
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Re: How we stopped the night feeds with a 9 month old
« Reply #38 on: March 02, 2006, 22:19:34 pm »
I think letting her cry for 10mins is to drastic... I personally think at 10mo, I'd be trying to stop ALL night feeds, & then you rule out hunger. Cut back on the time by 2mins every 3 nights & settle. & then when you have got to NO feeds I'd just do Pu/pd & only offer water.
I personally think if you work for 2 hours to get her to sleep & then feed then all you are doing is saying that she has to cry so long & then she gets the feed. if you give a feed but it gets shorter, then she realises that eventually it isn't worth it for the feed.
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Re: How we stopped the night feeds with a 9 month old
« Reply #39 on: March 02, 2006, 23:25:40 pm »
Kate, thank you so much for your reply. Last night was terrible. Olivia was up 9 times. I could only let her cry for a couple of minutes because it was just too hard.  The screaming was horrendous. 

I'd like to try what you're suggesting, it fits in with my philosophy of meeting Olivia's needs far more than any other advice i've received. Before commencing, can i clarify a few points?  You said to "cut back  on the time by 2 minutes every 3 nights and settle". Does that mean:

1. when she cries tonight at 9.30pm offer her two breasts as normal? and time and record the feeding time for each side? (lets say for eg. Right side 8 minutes, left side 7 minutes - left always seems to be shorter)
2. when she next cries (as in protesting, not whimpering) go into her room and immediately feed her? ie. no attempts to settle?
3. offer her only one breast for each wake up? (thats what i've been doing between 9.30pm and 6.30am and its enough to get her back to sleep), so if her next wakeup is at 11.30pm i offer her ONLY the right breast but only let her feed for 6 minutes (8-2)  and then settle?
4. and then if she wakes at 2am, do i offer her the left breast and only let her feed for 5 minutes (7-2)? and then settle?
5.Do this Fri, Sat, Sun night, and then on Monday night i cut back each side by another 2 minutes?

I'm sorry to bother you with so many questions, but i've been a crying mess for so long. I get so upset that i can't seem to help Olivia. I have been trying so many things with her and i'm getting to the stage where my confidence at night is rock bottom. Your ideas fit well with me, but i need to do it properly from the word go.

Thank you again
Susan

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Re: How we stopped the night feeds with a 9 month old
« Reply #40 on: March 03, 2006, 02:17:24 am »
OK I'm making an assumption here that she can settle for naps/bedtime with out a feed & you are putting her down in her cot awake... if not then there in lies another problem & no matter what you do with the feeds not much else will change.

What is happening is she feels hungry at the times you have fed. So you want to cut back so she gets hungry in the day rather than the 'learnt hunger at night'.

So for all feeds I would cut back... 2mins is just a ball park... with ds #1, I actually dropped to one side & then 3 days later dropped the second side & that was it. with ds#2 I have tended to pay close attention to his sucking & when it slowed (became comfort sucking), I took him off & then calmed him in his cot in the same way I put him down at the start of the night... ie give him his teddy & stroke his legs for a minute or so... I have found that what is happening with him is a 4amish feed became a 5amish, now is getting close to a 6am, so he is just taking a bit more in the day rather than dropping it completely

Now how to address... if on other occasions you have tried to settle & then ended up feeding 90% of the time, I would say, just feed... if you mostly can settle without feeding, then try that as you have previously. the thing to do is to look at what you are doing & reducing the feeding part & replacing it with other settling ie patting or pu/pd. But doing it in a consistant way so that Olivia learns that it is the "new way" what ever you do sit down & work out what you know you are able to cope with & then stick to it 1000%. the more you change it the more confused she gets & the harder it is on everyone.

Tonight rather than time, offer the first side, then when you get to the second,offer a minute or 2 & take her off, if she gets really upset, put her back on, but keep doing that. The key is really you don't want her to fall asleep feeding at ANYTIME so she doesn't see it as a way to get back to sleep.
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Re: How we stopped the night feeds with a 9 month old
« Reply #41 on: March 10, 2006, 11:49:47 am »
Going thru another bout of illness so I'm going to do this again once my little love is better. She's also had some cranial osteopathy so I'm hoping that will help the little flower too
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Re: How we stopped the night feeds with a 9 month old
« Reply #42 on: April 20, 2006, 05:13:45 am »
After teething, travelling overseas milestones and moving out of state I began to feed my dd her during the night again at 6 months.  Classic AP... I felt bad for her so I nursed her. After a month of pitying her I tried waked to sleep but her wake times were too erratic, then I tried pu/ pd which never worked she would wake 20 min after falling asleep. I kept trying to settle her but it has been two months of 2-3 wake ups per night and I am doubting I have any whisperer in me but

then I found this thread...hallelujah!!

I have still been giving her a df at 10:30 (which she often wakes for). She goes down with about 30 seconds of fussing at naps and bedtime but after dream feed wakes between 1am-3am erratically and then again at 4am-5am and then is up at 6am. These night time wake ups are so different than any others, she just gets more and more angry when I rub her back, give her her lovey, etc.

With all that said she is on a 4hr schedule, eats 3 meals has 2 1-1.5hr naps and a consistent bedtime ritual and is in bed by 7.

I have been decreasing nursing time for two nights, but she still seems starved at night and even though the feed time is less she gulps it down so quickly I wonder if she is noticing that the feed time is less??  She eats well during the day but not with the same gusto as she
does at night. Would it be better to express or use formula so you can better monitor intake? Is there something I should do differently to stimulate daytime eating?
So far this is how it has gone:
First night I gave her dream feed 11pm (slept through) she woke at 1:30 and 5 up at 6 and then
last night she woke at 10:30, 2:30, and 4:45 and then up at 6 (my dh gets up for work at 6 so that is a constant wake up)
I have been decreasing the df also, do you think it is better to tackle the 2 late night wake ups first? 
She does sometimes wake at 9-9:30pm and needs help to settle (back rubbed, laid down handed paci,lovey) do you think I am on the right track or am I off base again?

Sorry for so many questions sometimes its just so darn hard to know!! Thanks for taking the time to read!!!

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Re: How we stopped the night feeds with a 9 month old
« Reply #43 on: April 22, 2006, 17:36:04 pm »
Oh my goodness my 10 month old is giving me the same trouble! She slept through at a very early age and then stopped at about 4 months and I have been nursing her every time she wakes up. She is definitely hungry so I increases her food intake during the day and that dropped her from 5 night feedings to 3. But I don' t know how to get her from there to even 1. I would be fine with 1 feeding for a while! It would be a world of difference! So if you find something that works I would really like to know!!!!! I have a very hard time listening to her cry and I know I will probably have to do the pu/pd with her but it seems like so much work and she still seems hungry at those times so it wouldn't work anyway! Let me know what you come up with!

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