Sleep training when LO just learnt to stand up in cot? Any ideas?

[Honeymonster]

So we've just recently transitioned to one nap (just turned 9months old) and an early bedtime! We've been fighting two naps for ages and just not squeezing them in and DD also went from 3-2 very early. Sleep has been much better at naps and bedtime and we've also had 6 whole days of only one night wakening on a 7.15pm-8am night :-000 don't want to jinx it but I'm so chuffed! (Have also introduced some formula top up at either bedtime or the NW which I think is helping...

Anyway.. To the point... Since the transition to one nap LO has obviously been knackered by sleep time and we may have inadvertently AP'd a bit by her falling asleep breast feeding.. I always try an take her off and keep her awake until she's in the cot but she's litterally out for the count on me as I wind her. She used to be a great independent sleeper but has now started being a lot more clingy and difficult to settle if I'm not feeding her to sleep. .. Oopsy ! So was planning on starting some sleep training however she has also JUsT learnt to stand up in the cot by herself (also sitting up and clapping is a fun game to play during nap time )
When I put her down for a nap and leave the room she does a wee moany cry like she used to but now instead of rolling about and then crashing... She just gets strait up and plays walking about.. Getting quite excited with her new found skills! She will do that for a good half hour then starts to scream (still standing)

The last two days I have resorted to walking her in the sling so at least she's not feeding to sleep.

I also have a bad back and pupd kills me!

Any ideas greatly appreciated':-)

If it helps Our easy is currently looking like this:

Wake: 8am (wakes happily and plays until I come get her)
E:8.15am (is never overly hungry)
Breakfast:9am (rarely eats much here)
10.30am small bf then outing in the buggy where she rests and zones out a bit but doesn't sleep (I'd like to cut this bf out but she's always hungry here as hasn't taken much at first feed/breakfast?
11.45- lunch
1.30 BF then settle for nap
2-4ish nap (I usually resettle at 45mins then she'll sleep full 2hrs)
5.00 dinner
6.00 bottle of formula +7pm BF
7-7.30 asleep
Has been sleeping until 8am with 1 feed- anywhere between 11pm and 4am. One night she slept right through a solid 11 hours:-00 I think she's really ready to drop her night feed as she's never very hungry in waking.

[nevinsmama]

Well, 9 months is really early for one nap, but it looks like it is working! Love those long nights! I would venture to say that the chaos is exactly as you described it "Love those new skills" I would give her plenty of time during her long wake time to practice and sort of ride it out. She may be catching a bit of second wind after the 6 hour A in the AM but if it  hasn't wreaked havoc in the night time I would go with what is working for now.

Am I correct that the sling is keeping her awake, not putting her to sleep? If it were it be trading one AP for another, if you see what I mean.

Will she settle better for nap if you are just sitting in the room, maybe repeating sleepy phrase, or just being a quiet presence?

Hope this helps!

[Honeymonster]

Hi nevinsmama, nope the sling puts her to sleep in minutes if I walk about the house in that but I am just changing sleep props.. Although I'd kind of prefer a prop that doesn't involve my boobs so oh can partake in bedtimes and settling for naps too!! :-) mostly the nap has been that late as it's been taking that long to settle her but we were attempting for more like 1-3. I think your right with the second wind, the past couple of days she has started a lot of ot awakenings from naps so iv decided instead of fighting for 30mins in cot and then APing anyway I'll just AP to preserve going down at a decent time and getting a full 2 hour nap.. The one nap and short day only works if it's a good restorative nap- hoping that by moving it back a bit to nearer where her first nap used to be ur will encourage her to sleep through 2 hours. Still don't know how to conquer the standing though. I've tried sitting in and she just gets up and wants to play! I've tried lying on the floor to encourage her to lie down but she sits up and reaches through the bars trying to grab my hair and if I way long enough not playing she just cries. :-(

[weaver]

As I read your routine above, LO is WU at 8 am and not having a nap til 2 most days.  So, though it sounds like she's low sleep needs and a lot of it will be to do with new skills, my guess is she's OT and this will not be helping her with the clowning around, particuarly as she might be one of those who gets a bit hyper when tired (maybe?).

If you've been APing sleep then you really are engaged in breaking props (bf, and carrying to sleep) so have a look here.
Gentle removal plan

Still don't know how to conquer the standing though. I've tried sitting in and she just gets up and wants to play! I've tried lying on the floor to encourage her to lie down but she sits up and reaches through the bars trying to grab my hair and if I way long enough not playing she just cries. :-(

Really really frustrating for you.  You need to just grab your patience with both hands and persevere, I'm afraid.  She will get it, it takes time.

Ultimately, you've two options and the choice really depends on your LO's temperament.  You can (a) leave her to it, and hope she sorts herself out, lies down and goes to sleep, or (b) stay with her and try to show her.  Pat the mattress and say 'sleeping time' or whatever your usual words are.  If she acts up, remove her hands from you, tell her to stop, and ultimately get up to leave.  It's ok to teach her there are boundaries.  Tell her you will sit down when she lies down and so on.

[nevinsmama]

That's totally OK! Whatever works for you, your LO and your family. Is the room quite dark? You say she is not actually dozing off in the stroller, have you tried letting her grab a quick 20-30? It just feels like OT to me, and baring in mind the A time in the AM, that is what I suspect. Can you sit way across the room so she can't get you? Or be outside the door, just out of sight and talk to her?

Posting with Anne, another perspective on the props, as I said, totally up to you.

[weaver]

have you tried letting her grab a quick 20-30?

Yes, for 2-1 with us, we had crazy days of 20 and then 10 minutes naps, but LO really really needed the quick doze to get through the day.  It's worth bearing in mind