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Re: LO 19 weeks early wake up/wake up at night
« Reply #75 on: January 30, 2015, 19:19:39 pm »
when she starts waking much earlier from her nap and/or have night wakings?
Yes, either can be an indication that it's time to increase A time.

I think that after a while of you setting the PM nap her body clock will get used to it and fall asleep. I would keep on offering the nap every day at the same time and if she refuses it then I would go for an EBT.
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Re: LO 19 weeks early wake up/wake up at night
« Reply #76 on: January 30, 2015, 19:23:31 pm »
Oops, just posting with Noa... I agree! :)



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Re: LO 19 weeks early wake up/wake up at night
« Reply #77 on: February 04, 2015, 21:47:03 pm »
Thanks for previous advice!  :)

Just want to post quickly one of issues we have at mo, need some advice regarding DF. LO has been DF since about 2 months. She is now 7 1/2 months. BF and giving solids for dinner only at mo as she is not pooing very often. Ive started phasing out DF yesterday by moving back with 15 mins as I believe she can go through night without BF. Also she has been waking up just before DF for past 4 days. I usually DF 22:20 and her last feed is normally around 18:30-18:45 so she is not waking cause of hunger. Yesterday I moved back DF to 22:05 and tonight she started waking 22:05. Usually when she starts waking before DF I go feed her thinking she is hungry, but dont really think she is waking cause of hunger as she is not drinking much and not like she is really hungry. Are these wakings due to habit? I dont want to reinforce this habit! Do you think its a good idea phasing out DF at this stage like Ive started doing? Should I do wake to sleep if its a habit or continue with phasing out DF??

On Monday she woke 22:13 and she did not take anything when BF her, put her back to bed and she did not wake during night for feed.
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Re: LO 19 weeks early wake up/wake up at night
« Reply #78 on: February 05, 2015, 05:20:58 am »
So, she only gets solids at dinner and her poos are different?  Do you think she could be waking in the early evening because she is uncomfortable? 
 
It's up to you if you want to keep phasing out the DF.  I think Tracy didn't recommend it until LO was well established on solids, but if you feel confident she can make it through the night without a feed, then it's worth a try. 

If you end up with a consistent waking at that time, you can always try wake-to-sleep to get rid of it.



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Re: LO 19 weeks early wake up/wake up at night
« Reply #79 on: February 08, 2015, 19:30:40 pm »
If she refuses pm nap how early can I put her to bed? She now usually falls asleep after A time of 4h 10mins-4h 20mins, but today she did not fall asleep for her pm nap for first time. Put her to bed for night earlier but was crying as OT for a while and fell asleep at 18:40 (she woke at 7:00 in morning). She has started baby talk much more (baba baba), could that be a developmental thing and maybe why she wouldn't settle? She was very happy and wide awake and refused to fall asleep.

Would it be ok that she would fall asleep in stroller for pm nap as this nap will eventually fade out or is that a bad idea as the nap will be needed for some time in terms of it becoming a prop?

Usually she would poo every day at least once per day when EBF. When started introducing solids she has only pooed 1/week even 1 time after 11 days. I give her prune puree more now so she has pooed more, but want to take it slowly with solids until she is more frequent with pooing. Yes only give her solids for dinner. Maybe she could be uncomfortable but now she has pooed yesterday and day before, but still waking today 21:45 and yesterday 22:15, Ive BF both times as she might be hungry as she goes to bed earlier so last BF before bed is earlier than usual.

I have started wake to sleep around DF time so let's see what happens. You are right, I will continue with DF as I'm not confident enough that she won't need it at mo.

Is it ok to calm her by singing with very low tone when she cries when trying to fall asleep for her naps and if she wakes at night?

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Re: LO 19 weeks early wake up/wake up at night
« Reply #80 on: February 09, 2015, 14:51:48 pm »
If she refuses pm nap how early can I put her to bed?
I usually do 30-60min earlier.

Would it be ok that she would fall asleep in stroller for pm nap as this nap will eventually fade out or is that a bad idea as the nap will be needed for some time in terms of it becoming a prop?
Yes, totally fine to do that CN in the stroller every day.

Is it ok to calm her by singing with very low tone when she cries when trying to fall asleep for her naps and if she wakes at night?
I don't know why not... could it possibly become a prop, yes, but it's not like you're holding her or even patting her, so I don't know that there's a good chance it would.  And, I think it would be easy enough to get rid of if you needed.  If it helps, I'd do it.

Do you have a reason not to do solids at lunch rather than dinner? It seems like if you're only doing one or two meals a day, it's best to do them earlier in the day to give her tummy appropriate time to digest before bed.  Some LOs have no problems with it, but since she's had some digestive issues, I might think about switching.  That being said, my boys' pooping routine did naturally change a bit after solids were introduced. 



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Re: LO 19 weeks early wake up/wake up at night
« Reply #81 on: February 19, 2015, 18:30:46 pm »
Thanks for your reply!

Pooping is getting better, so will start with 3 meals a day soon if continues in right direction with pooping. Did breakfast and dinner thinking she might stay full longer at night with dinner instead of lunch and also fit in our day better with dinner as we are usually out during the day.

We are having some problems with EW again. It has been going on for about 2 weeks at least, it is very rare she wakes 6:30, if not around 5 it is between 5-6. She was teething for few days (now her tooth has come out) so up at night, but that was more around 2/3 and not 5 am. I will post last days of EASY. Is it time to increase A time again in morning? She usually sleeps it ok, but can still be she needs increase as she tends to wake early? Pm nap is usually in stroller and she only sleeps max 30 mins. She wakes around 5 am and starts crying a bit on and off and then more so have to go in to her. Usually it will take her 1 hr at least with patting to fall asleep or she won't fall asleep at all. I don't think she is hungry as when she sleeps through she doesn't wake for feeding and also while teething and up for long time at night she didn't wake again until morning. Don't know if it is a pattern, but when she wakes around 5 one day seems like she sleeps a bit longer next day as if she is more tired and then next day again she wakes around 5.

What is your advice??

Sat 14 Feb:
WU 5:20 tried get her to sleep didn't work, picked up 6:40
S 10:05-11:35
S 15:47-16:14
Slept for evening 18:48
DF 22:30

Sun 15 Feb:
WU  6:50 picked up 6:56
S 10:27-11:58
S 16:09-16:38
Slept for evening 18:52
DF 22:20

Mon 16 Feb:
WU 5:50 tried get her to sleep didn't work, picked up 6:30
S 9:58-11:38
S 16:10-16:36
Slept for evening 18:38
DF 22:16

Tues 17 Feb:
WU 6:20 picked up 6:50
S 10:20.11:52
S 16:13-16:53 was moving a lot don't know if was fully sleeping for whole nap
Slept for evening 19:02
DF 22:18
WU 4:40 tried to get to sleep crying a lot BF 5:04 still crying after (don't think woke cause of hunger) fell asleep 5:48

Wed 18 Feb:
Woke her 7:03
S 10:34-12:07
S 16:07-16:30
Slept for evening 18:54
DF 22:23

Thu19 Feb:
WU 5:05 tried to get her to sleep fell asleep 6:15 woke again 6:25 tried to get her to sleep picked her up 6:45
S 10:18-11:50
S 16:12-16:39
Slept for evening 19:02

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Re: LO 19 weeks early wake up/wake up at night
« Reply #82 on: February 20, 2015, 15:29:04 pm »
It does look like she's got a pattern going.  I wonder if setting naps and BT would help... you're sort of there with the naps, but maybe if you pushed the first nap and BT consistently out a bit (adding a little more A time to the day, the WU would follow suit). She typically does 2hr during the day and then seems to be switching back and forth between a 12 and 11hr night, so it might make sense to shoot for 11.5hr.

Maybe you could try something like this...
WU ideally 6:30
Nap 1 10:30-12
Nap 2 16-16:30
BT 19:00


What do you think?



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Re: LO 19 weeks early wake up/wake up at night
« Reply #83 on: February 20, 2015, 16:05:48 pm »
Thanks for advice!

Do you mean 12.5hr days?  :)

I increased A time in am to 3h 45m so lets see how it goes. So I will keep 3h 45 m for 3 days and then increase to 4h?

In pm her A time is more than 4h she wont fall asleep after 4h A, she fell asleep today in stroller after 4h 21m. How would you suggest EASY in that case also how do you suggest I go about BF and feeding at what times? I feel she needs at least 1 1/2 h between dinner and BF before bedtime.

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Re: LO 19 weeks early wake up/wake up at night
« Reply #84 on: February 20, 2015, 16:29:35 pm »
Do you mean 12.5hr days?  :)
Yes, 12.5hr day... 11.5hr night.

I increased A time in am to 3h 45m so lets see how it goes. So I will keep 3h 45 m for 3 days and then increase to 4h?
I guess so... I'd be tempted to just do the nap at 10:30 no matter what and see if she can regulate the morning WU, but it's up to you.

In pm her A time is more than 4h she wont fall asleep after 4h A, she fell asleep today in stroller after 4h 21m.
Even in the stroller she won't fall asleep after 4hr?  I guess you could do 4h15-30min then and do the shorter A to bed.

How would you suggest EASY in that case also how do you suggest I go about BF and feeding at what times? I feel she needs at least 1 1/2 h between dinner and BF before bedtime.
How about this...
WU/E 6:30/7am
A (solids 7:30/8am)
S 10:30-12
E 12pm
A (solids 12:30/1pm)
E 3:30pm
S 4:15-4:45
A (solids 5pm; not necessary though)
E 6:30pm
S 7pm



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Re: LO 19 weeks early wake up/wake up at night
« Reply #85 on: February 20, 2015, 17:56:10 pm »
So if she wakes at 7 still do 10:30-12 nap?

How much at age of 8 months should I feed her solids? Usually BF at 7 and solids 8:30 and she gets hungry around 12.

BF is enough without dinner? But still do DF?

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Re: LO 19 weeks early wake up/wake up at night
« Reply #86 on: February 21, 2015, 14:51:08 pm »
So if she wakes at 7 still do 10:30-12 nap?
I would until it's an issue.

How much at age of 8 months should I feed her solids? Usually BF at 7 and solids 8:30 and she gets hungry around 12.
I don't really know. :-\ You could ask on the Feeding Solids Food board. Feeding Solid Food I only had one LO who took much before 9/10mo. He had two meals of probably 1/4 cup each.

BF is enough without dinner? But still do DF?
I think at this age BF is still preferable to solids, so I only usually offered two meals, breakfast and an afternoon lunch (gave a few finger foods at dinner). But, all LOs are different... some definitely take 3 meals at this point. Sorry I'm not super helpful on that!



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Re: LO 19 weeks early wake up/wake up at night
« Reply #87 on: February 22, 2015, 20:06:10 pm »
Thanks for reply.  :)

Curious to know what future EASY can look like when need to increase A time again if need to increase A time in morning by 30 mins, maybe A time in pm too, what happens with pm nap?

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Re: LO 19 weeks early wake up/wake up at night
« Reply #88 on: February 23, 2015, 20:24:16 pm »
Curious to know what future EASY can look like when need to increase A time again if need to increase A time in morning by 30 mins, maybe A time in pm too, what happens with pm nap?
Probably you will cut it down to 20min, then 10/15 just to get her through, and then push to one nap.



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Re: LO 19 weeks early wake up/wake up at night
« Reply #89 on: February 25, 2015, 19:31:50 pm »
I have tried am nap at 10:30. For last 2 days she has woken at 5:30. Do you think I need to increase A time more? I added 10 mins today so first nap was at 10:40. Has been bit easier to get her to sleep around 4 hr A time in pm.

EASY for last 5 days:

Sat 21 Feb:
WU 6:30 picked up 6:39
S 10:30-12:02
S 16:05-16:30
BT 19:00
DF 22:25

Sun 22/2:
Woke her 6:32
S 10:27-11:58
S 16:05-16:30
BT 18:48
DF 22:16

Mon 23 Feb:
WU 6:30
Vaken 6:30 gått in 6:37-10:33 nattat 10:30
S 10:33-12:03
S 16:12-16:44
BT 19:00
DF 22:25

Tues 24:
WU 5:30 tried to get her to sleep didn't work picked up 6:23
S 10:29-12:01
S 16:05-16:37
BT 18:57
DF 22:24

Wed 25 Feb:
WU 5:30 picked up 6:06
S 10:39-11:55 (had to wake her as had appointment)
S 15:59-16:44 (let her sleep bit longer as didn't sleep full nap earlier)
BT 19:13